[Shelby Durango]

i have been thinking about changing my application to turbos. instead of my supercharged 5.9l. would i want a single turbo or twin turbos? ive been looking into the kit from "sdce", i have also found the single turbo system from turbo technology inc. Has anyone used the system from T.T. inc.? my goal is to put 500hp to the ground. but im in a rut. Where do i start on a project like this? it would be a slow bulid, but i do want to get another block and bulid from there. so i wouldnt have to put up the "D". its still my dd to work and back. any advise would be appericated.

 

[01DurangoSLT]

well, ideally you would want to build the lower and go with a lower CR to accommodate lots of boost. otherwise you may as well just stay with a supercharger....right?

i have been thinking about changing my application to turbos. instead of my supercharged 5.9l. would i want a single turbo or twin turbos? ive been looking into the kit from "sdce", i have also found the single turbo system from turbo technology inc. Has anyone used the system from T.T. inc.? my goal is to put 500hp to the ground. but im in a rut. Where do i start on a project like this? it would be a slow bulid, but i do want to get another block and bulid from there. so i wouldnt have to put up the "D". its still my dd to work and back. any advise would be appericated.

 

[danbap]

only point to a twin turbo set up is the wow factor. youe going to need to do alot of research. 500rwhp is no joke. going to need a trans, is your truck awd? if so you have to find out if the transfer case can hold that kind of power, going to need a built trans, front axle going to take the power?

 

[bogieboy]

Like dan said......

You not only need a built engine, you need a built driveline too.......

 

[Shimrra]

TT is not just for wow, on larger engines, it is used to help with lag. 2 smaller turbos give as much boost but have less lag than one big one. TBQH i would rather have the one big one for a DD

 

[01DurangoSLT]

I think 500HP is doable with stock tranny and drive train although i would recommend a better torque converter.
I will admit it is definitely beginning to push the limits...

 

[danbap]

were talking 5.9 based build no need for tt.

500rwhp the stock stuff will NOT HOLD

 

[01DurangoSLT]

I'll let you know how it works out on a 4.7L because i intend to do just that...
tranny has 130k on it so im guessing that will be the first to go.

were talking 5.9 based build no need for tt.

500rwhp the stock stuff will NOT HOLD

 

[danbap]

i dont know anything about the trans that are behind the 4.7, but a 518 based trans beside a 727 wont hold up at all it just a matter of time before it dies.

 

[white59rt]

i have been thinking about changing my application to turbos. instead of my supercharged 5.9l. would i want a single turbo or twin turbos? ive been looking into the kit from "sdce", i have also found the single turbo system from turbo technology inc. Has anyone used the system from T.T. inc.? my goal is to put 500hp to the ground. but im in a rut. Where do i start on a project like this? it would be a slow bulid, but i do want to get another block and bulid from there. so i wouldnt have to put up the "D". its still my dd to work and back. any advise would be appericated.

PIE also has a single turbo kit that looks pretty nice - a few of the rt guys are running as well as the owner of PIE.

I would post a link to the thread on another forum but it will just get scrubbed so you will have to search around a bit, however it appears to be a nice kit putting out good numbers with otherwise stock bottom ended 360s.

2k1amberR/T has one on his truck and it seems to have put down some good numbers on 6 and 10psi.

Todd

 

[suprchgd99rango]

dont tear apart the sp360! sell it and buy another durango to do it to!

and do a bi-turbo.

 

[2k1AmberR/T]

PIE also has a single turbo kit that looks pretty nice - a few of the rt guys are running as well as the owner of PIE.

I would post a link to the thread on another forum but it will just get scrubbed so you will have to search around a bit, however it appears to be a nice kit putting out good numbers with otherwise stock bottom ended 360s.

2k1amberR/T has one on his truck and it seems to have put down some good numbers on 6 and 10psi.

Todd

Thanks. Ignore my 10 pound numbers, they mean nothing. That was with essentially stock heads, with my current heads it picked up 40+ whp at the 6 pound mark. I'd imagine my 10 pound numbers should be 460-470ish now but I won't know for another month or so.

And yes, TTI is not the only company with a turbo kit now. PIE also has one, and it is on my truck, and it is top notch and very dynamic. You can use it at low boost on a stock engine or you can use it in a high boost application and make well over 500whp with it if you have the right setup. As mentioned you probably wouldn't want to do that with a stock motor even if you could. (although, I think it is completely possible...just not very reliable) A simple forged 360 with 10 pounds of boost can reach 500whp without any issues at all. Nothing crazy or out of the ordinary.

 

[white59rt]

Thanks. Ignore my 10 pound numbers, they mean nothing. That was with essentially stock heads, with my current heads it picked up 40+ whp at the 6 pound mark. I'd imagine my 10 pound numbers should be 460-470ish now but I won't know for another month or so.

And yes, TTI is not the only company with a turbo kit now. PIE also has one, and it is on my truck, and it is top notch and very dynamic. You can use it at low boost on a stock engine or you can use it in a high boost application and make well over 500whp with it if you have the right setup. As mentioned you probably wouldn't want to do that with a stock motor even if you could. (although, I think it is completely possible...just not very reliable) A simple forged 360 with 10 pounds of boost can reach 500whp without any issues at all. Nothing crazy or out of the ordinary.

I know you dont care for me too much - but I have to tell you I am pretty impressed with the way your turbo project turned out - chris makes a nice kit.

If I didnt have a baby on the way and an ass load of $$ in my vortech kit I would almost be forced to have him box one up destination cali.

Todd

 

[2k1AmberR/T]

I know you dont care for me too much - but I have to tell you I am pretty impressed with the way your turbo project turned out - chris makes a nice kit.

If I didnt have a baby on the way and an ass load of $$ in my vortech kit I would almost be forced to have him box one up destination cali.

Todd

Don't care for you too much? I could give a fuck less, we are men on truck forums not a group of teenage girls caught up in stupid drama. The only person I may not care for is Russ or Sam. Sam is long gone and Russ is well on his way. Otherwise I just call it like it is.

:drive:

 

[danbap]

Thanks. Ignore my 10 pound numbers, they mean nothing. That was with essentially stock heads, with my current heads it picked up 40+ whp at the 6 pound mark. I'd imagine my 10 pound numbers should be 460-470ish now but I won't know for another month or so.

And yes, TTI is not the only company with a turbo kit now. PIE also has one, and it is on my truck, and it is top notch and very dynamic. You can use it at low boost on a stock engine or you can use it in a high boost application and make well over 500whp with it if you have the right setup. As mentioned you probably wouldn't want to do that with a stock motor even if you could. (although, I think it is completely possible...just not very reliable) A simple forged 360 with 10 pounds of boost can reach 500whp without any issues at all. Nothing crazy or out of the ordinary.

damn ive really been out of the loop for a while thats bad ass you have a turbo one your truck! :drive: but im not sure if you are the guy im thinking of :huh: people need to keep there avatar and sigs the same haha

 

[Shelby Durango]

dont tear apart the sp360! sell it and buy another durango to do it to!

and do a bi-turbo.

i wouldnt be tearing up the sp360 id just be switch the forced induction system.

i was goning to get a different 360 block and put forged internals crank, rods, keith black pistons etc. itll be a slow build. But i have my goals in mind. I thanks all you guys for the comments. but im still debating if i should get the twin turbo kit for about 6k thats with upgraded turbos. or a single turbo. i have no idea yet. but id have to look into a trans rebuild also. I think they make a tranny thats called a ramzilla or something or another. I'm in the planning/saving stages. just need im put. i was think about going with some rpm heads p/p with a 2.02 intake and a 1.68 exhaust. would this be good for the application i want?

 

[Shimrra]

i think of it like this, if you are going to DD this, then you wont care that much about lag.
lag is the main reason to go TT.
the downside of TT is you need 2 of everything and to cram everything in there.

a single turbo will get the same performance in the end, and cost less, and be done sooner.

you dont have a 7l where you need to move so much air it's silly and 1 turbo would really have to fight.
a viper with 4PSI will make something like 900hp, but the amount of turbo to get 4psi is insane. the one dyno run i saw that was running a single turbo had one bigger than a mac truck.

 

[white59rt]

i think of it like this, if you are going to DD this, then you wont care that much about lag.
lag is the main reason to go TT.
the downside of TT is you need 2 of everything and to cram everything in there.

a single turbo will get the same performance in the end, and cost less, and be done sooner.

you dont have a 7l where you need to move so much air it's silly and 1 turbo would really have to fight.
a viper with 4PSI will make something like 900hp, but the amount of turbo to get 4psi is insane. the one dyno run i saw that was running a single turbo had one bigger than a mac truck.

Lag is a GOOD thing with a pickup truck

Otherwise you get to do donuts all the time for no reason

The twin turbo setup on a small block motor is worthless imo unless you are shooting for HP numbers with a comma in it. For what most people are trying to do a single is not only enough, it is more than enough if the turbo is spec'd properly.

Todd

 

[Shelby Durango]

Lag is a GOOD thing with a pickup truck

Otherwise you get to do donuts all the time for no reason

The twin turbo setup on a small block motor is worthless imo unless you are shooting for HP numbers with a comma in it. For what most people are trying to do a single is not only enough, it is more than enough if the turbo is spec'd properly.

Todd

id love to have a comma! lol i mean its a dream of mine. get a two wheel drive durango and tub it out and make it a drag truck with 1,xxxhp lol i dont know. we all have dreams right.

 

[Shelby Durango]

i think of it like this, if you are going to DD this, then you wont care that much about lag.
lag is the main reason to go TT.
the downside of TT is you need 2 of everything and to cram everything in there.

a single turbo will get the same performance in the end, and cost less, and be done sooner.

you dont have a 7l where you need to move so much air it's silly and 1 turbo would really have to fight.
a viper with 4PSI will make something like 900hp, but the amount of turbo to get 4psi is insane. the one dyno run i saw that was running a single turbo had one bigger than a mac truck.

so would the single turbo work for my truck then? plus i mean the twin turbo system is so cramp id have to take the system apart to change spark plugs? its still up for debate either i go with single or twins.