Im going to replace the 4500's in my thunderform with a pair of shallow mount subs, but i need some opinions on them first. Kicker CVT10 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140106468888.......or Clarion SFW1051 http://cgi.ebay.com/CLARION-SFW1051...QQitemZ280103196791QQihZ018QQcategoryZ3291QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem. And if anyone has any other suggestions on a pair of subs under $200, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks