I just switched over to Mobil 1 Extended Service oil. How long are you guys going between oil changes with this stuff. also, for those who reply, what kind of driving (towing, racing, daily driver, weekend truck, etc.) do you do? Thanks for the responses guys.:drive:
Just switched oils....
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hskrRT,
I am not going to try to respond to every one of your points. My time is too
valuable. Plus - I am not here to debate "Brand X" vs. "Brand Y", and I don't
know why you felt you had to go on the attack. I really dislike forums where
everyone attacks and flames Amsoil (especially when they are site sponsors).
I am here to offer information so that consumers are better informed and so
that they can make better decisions.
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However, I will respond to the general questions and I offer this as clarification:
In regards to the FREE Amsoil Preferred Customer Memberships, ...
basically I purchase a 6-Month Membership for almost everyone who places an
order (with no "real" minimum purchase). Yep - I pay the $10 out of my own pocket.
However, for larger orders - anything between $80 - $100 Retail, I give away
a 12-month Amsoil Preferred Customer Membership ($20 out of my own pocket).
Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer -- giving away $10 and $20 bills ?????
How many "happy icons" can we locate? _ :mullet: _ :woot: _ :banana2: _
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Why does Amsoil always compare themselves to Mobil1? Mobil1 asked for it !!!
M1's advertising slogan - "Nothing Outperforms Mobil1" - sets them up for comparison.
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_ USE WHATEVER BRAND SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL YOU WANT _
_ JUST MAKE CERTAIN IT IS A TRUE SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL _
WHY ... Because Synthetic Lubricants Are Proven To Be Superior. (link)
Oh Yes .......... and PLEASE CONSIDER AMSOIL!
Yep ... the two "key words" here are ... "PLEASE" ... and "CONSIDER".
I've had a lot of fun today and I think I covered all the topics - so it's time to say :bye:.
Thank you,
Steven Roark, Proud Sponsor of www.Dakota-Durango.com
Oh Yes - (before bedtime) - gotta switch one more car to Amsoil _ :worky:
hskrRT,
I am not going to try to respond to every one of your points. My time is too
valuable. Plus - I am not here to debate "Brand X" vs. "Brand Y", and I don't
know why you felt you had to go on the attack. I really dislike forums where
everyone attacks and flames Amsoil (especially when they are site sponsors).
I am here to offer information so that consumers are better informed and so
that they can make better decisions.
__________________
However, I will respond to the general questions and I offer this as clarification:
In regards to the FREE Amsoil Preferred Customer Memberships, ...
basically I purchase a 6-Month Membership for almost everyone who places an
order (with no "real" minimum purchase). Yep - I pay the $10 out of my own pocket.
However, for larger orders - anything between $80 - $100 Retail, I give away
a 12-month Amsoil Preferred Customer Membership ($20 out of my own pocket).
Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer -- giving away $10 and $20 bills ?????
How many "happy icons" can we locate? _ :mullet: _ :woot: _ :banana2: _
__________________
Why does Amsoil always compare themselves to Mobil1? Mobil1 asked for it !!!
M1's advertising slogan - "Nothing Outperforms Mobil1" - sets them up for comparison.
__________________
_ USE WHATEVER BRAND SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL YOU WANT _
_ JUST MAKE CERTAIN IT IS A TRUE SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL _
WHY ... Because Synthetic Lubricants Are Proven To Be Superior. (link)
Oh Yes .......... and PLEASE CONSIDER AMSOIL!
Yep ... the two "key words" here are ... "PLEASE" ... and "CONSIDER".
I've had a lot of fun today and I think I covered all the topics - so it's time to say :bye:.
Thank you,
Steven Roark, Proud Sponsor of www.Dakota-Durango.com
Oh Yes - (before bedtime) - gotta switch one more car to Amsoil _ :worky:
I still ask you "what" they quit. You've said it more than once now that they quit, but you never said what you claim they quit. As far as I know, they still sell synthetic oil. I was just at the store today and saw bottles sitting on the shelf that said Mobil1 synthetic. So unless it's something that's happened in the last few days, they haven't quit anything.
It's called advertising. Same thing with Amsoil running their smear campaign against Mobil1 posting all the results of their testing showing how much better Amsoil is. But the tests they post are not done by an unbiased third party.
Since I've never seen any sales results from either company, I can't give you a comparison. But considering how much time Amsoil dedicates to "studies" to prove how much better it is than Mobil1, then one can easily determine that Mobil1 is it's top competitor, so must have a large share of the synthetic oil market.
This is the best I could find
[Mobil 1 market share]
Mobil 1, which has the strongest hold on the synthetic market
(estimated by one analyst at 60.4%) and factory-fill contracts with
Corvette and Porsche, continues to dominate the overall synthetic
market...Castrol, whose market share... was virtually nonexistent 6
years ago, now has more than 20% of the market...
It came from an internet message board, much like the claims that Mobil1 is now a group III oil.
[qoute]also look at how much BS commercials and ads that mobil1 puts out just to get you to buy their product....now look at amsoil...and they are just as successful if not more, with very little advertising[/qoute]
Steve is trying to close that gap single handedly on the message boards he posts on. And you claim that they are just as successful. Can you back that up?? I mean since you want to play that game with me, lets see how well you can play.
I drive hard as well. there's not a day goes by when driving my truck that it doesn't see WOT. But over the last four years I have only put 40K miles on it. Mainly due to being deployed in the Navy.
[qoute]if you personally "feel" that mobil1 is better....then drop it[/qoute]
I don't think one oil is better than the other. Personally, I think they are equal. Which is why I keep asking for anything to prove to me that the extra cost of Amsoil is worth it.
[qoute]oh, but dont forget to prove that other stuff[/quote]
You have your own stuff to prove now. But can you do it??
[qoute]oh and i never said that they hate their customers.....they just care more about their money....i mean hell, if i can sell you a "synthetic" oil cheaper than so and so's proven oil......what do i care? i will have more customers that think they have a deal[/qoute]
Show me one company that doesn't care more about making money than the customers. Nobody gets into business to make the customers happy, they do it to make money.
You have your own stuff to prove now. But can you do it??
[qoute]oh and i never said that they hate their customers.....they just care more about their money....i mean hell, if i can sell you a "synthetic" oil cheaper than so and so's proven oil......what do i care? i will have more customers that think they have a deal[/qoute]
Show me one company that doesn't care more about making money than the customers. Nobody gets into business to make the customers happy, they do it to make money.[/QUOTE]
they quit selling synthetics in the 70's...just because it says synthetic on the front label does not mean its real synthetic oil
actually the testing was done by an independent lab...you have any proof that they were biased? and it is not a smear campain....mobil1 brought it to themselves with their slogan...and these test started a long time ago....and none has changed with each test
as for cost......kia is cheaper than dodge...so why did you buy dodge?
WOT is not driving hard...and i was also in the navy for 5 years and currently switched back to the army...but i am a person that loves to drive...when i mean drive hard, i mean like a race car driver...yeah i may be a wanna be
and there is no need to attack steve on his free information....i suppose you could say he is doing for those like you that just really dont want to read, or should i say only want to read what they want...he has supplied how many links?
yes companies go into business to make money...but if you dont care about your customers...will they come back...i have never heard one person that has used amsoil say a negative thing about the product...except for it availability...with all the other shit people buy online..why not motor oil....you already said yourself that you only buy online if a store doesnt have it.
oh and just what do i have to prove?
amsoil is a real.....R E A L SYNTHETIC with over 30 years of proven results...
name one other company
So you DO believe everything you read online. Amsoil's website, including the links Steve provided all list Mobil1 as a true synthetic. So unless YOU can prove otherwise, it's still a full synthetic, even according to Amsoil. So now, I'll ask again. What did Mobil1 quit???
The tests were paid for my Amsoil. I'm sure the company doing them wanted to continue doing business with Amsoil, so who's to say they weren't biased?? And as far as the tests go, I posted a link a while ago to an independent long term real world study(not a laboratory) that someone conducted on their own vehicle. In their testing, Mobil1 performed better in their vehicle than Amsoil. So obviously something has changed. It's called the person doing the testing. And testing new oil in a laboratory doesn't show what it will do real world over time. They got better gs mileage with Mobil1 and they actually got longer oil life out of Mobil1 before the oil analysis testing they had done recommended the oil be changed.
LOL, comparing buying a Dodge over a Kia to oil is funny. Kia doesn't make a V-8 sport truck that I know of. Unless you know about one that nobody else does. Might as well said Geo, or Yugo. :funny:
So how do you drive "like a race car driver?" And what type of race car?? Sprint cars, Stock Cars, Formula 1, Rally, Prostock drag racers, maybe shifter karts??? :funny: I don't speed if that's what you mean. Not worth the tickets. I stopped that after my 113 in a 65 ticket I got that cost me more in fines than the chick in front of me in court who was busted for her third DUI. 90% of the miles put on my truck are hard. I'm not going to try and compete with you on hard driving. That's pointless.
Well, you see, that's part of the problem. Every single one of his posts are nothing but a large advertisement for Amsoil. I've never seen him make a single post about anything other than trying to sell Amsoil. I understand that's his business, but all the other site sponsors that post on here do more than just talk about their business.
I've never heard of any complaints with Mobil1 either, other than form the people that don't use it. So what's your point?? Both companies are in the business of making money off of their customers. As for why I don't buy it online like the other stuff I do?? Because I can get Mobil1 cheaper and it works just as good. Why in the world would I want to pay more online for a product that doesn't have any other benefits than a cheaper product I can buy from a local store?? And before you even reply, what Amsoil claims to make their oil better are just that, claims. Real world testing hasn't really proven one to be better than the other. Both claim extended drain intervals(now) and in my experience with Mobil1, it does just fine at protecting motors. I put 120K miles on my '99 R/T before I totaled it, all hard miles, plenty of drag racing, lots of street racing, and just general driving "like a race car driver," and when i tore the motor down after the wreck, the motor still looked new on the inside. Still had the factory cross hatching on the cylinder walls, was not dirty inside at all, and all the bearings looked good. Other motors i have seen tore down after less miles running regular dino oil are dirty inside, and have cam bearing damage at least. Mine showed none of those signs. Made me a Mobil1 user for life. Not sure how Amsoil could have done any better.
Guess your short term memory is failing. You said
I asked for you to prove that if you could. Or is that just your opinion??
Never said they weren't a real synthetic. So I guess you win that one. :funny: Mobil1 is still a true synthetic, unless you can prove otherwise, and is even listed as one by Amsoil. And they have proven themselves over the years as well, and from the links provided are only a few years behind Amsoil in the synthetic oil business. So I guess I can't name one company that has been at it longer, but Mobil1 has just as many proven results if not more. I mean, it is the #1 factory recommended and used oil by several auto manufacturers in their high performance vehicles. Including the Dodge Viper and SRT line up..
Just having a little fun with these guys who are so hard up for Amsoil it's funny.
hardup? no..i just like it and trust it.
so i am going to quit wasting time with you.....i have better argument with my wife.....
so i will leave you hardup and your mobil1 to lube it :jerkit:
oh then tell me why dodge dealerships sell amsoil now
oh as for your engine...that proves nothing..i just got done tearing down an 04 4.7 with 60 something thousand miles on it and all it had was dino oil and the entire engine was clean...factory cross hatch marks and all
oh gee..is this not enough proof?
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253651&highlight=mobil+1
http://forums.mazdaworld.org/index.php?showtopic=16952
http://forums.evolutionm.net/archive/index.php/t-232827.html
http://www.bestsynthetic.com/mobil1.shtml
http://www.ultimatesyntheticoil.com/
oh and make sure you check the dates on the post:wave:
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Well, I got distracted - haven't gone to bed yet - and stopped by to say :bye: .
Before I go - I am still giving away $10 and $20 bills for all those interested!
FREE $$$ ??? How many "happy icons" can we locate? _ :mullet: _ :woot: _ :banana2: _
As always, I close with ..... PLEASE CONSIDER AMSOIL!
Yep ... the two "key words" here are ... "PLEASE" ... and "CONSIDER".
We have had a lot of fun today - and I think we covered all the topics.
Thank you "hskrRT" for the opportunity to set the record straight.
Well, I got distracted - haven't gone to bed yet - and stopped by to say :bye: .
Before I go - I am still giving away $10 and $20 bills for all those interested!
FREE $$$ ??? How many "happy icons" can we locate? _ :mullet: _ :woot: _ :banana2: _
As always, I close with ..... PLEASE CONSIDER AMSOIL!
Yep ... the two "key words" here are ... "PLEASE" ... and "CONSIDER".
We have had a lot of fun today - and I think we covered all the topics.
Thank you "hskrRT" for the opportunity to set the record straight.
And I like and trust Mobil1.
Sorry to hear that. I hope everything is okay with your marriage. My wife and I don't argue much at all.
Now that's funny.
Not all Dodge dealers sell Amsoil. There aren't any in my area that do. Must be a Colorado thing.
As i said before, you must believe everything you read on the internet. Not one person posted any hard proof of Mobil1 switching it's formula to a groupIII. Just because some import driving retards post about it on a message board doesn't make it true. I've even mentioned in one of my other posts, that the only place I've seen any mention of the switch was on several internet message boards, and that it was just hearsay. All three boards you linked couldn't even come up with a time that Mobil1 switched. One board said just a few months ago, one board was 2000, and the other one guys said it's been that way since the early 90's. And if you want to get into technicalities, you can't even say "Amsoil" as a whole is a true synthetic, because even Amsoil sells some groupIII oils now.
Well, as long as people are still blindly claiming Mobil1 has switched to a group III with no real proof, then the record hasn't been set straight. But you're welcome anyways.
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try doing an 18 plus hour trip in less than 12 hours with about a tank of gas with 20mpg at WOT...sitting below the superchips limiter with no tickets
of course not you dont speed
i've used both amsoil and mobil 1 ep changing out at 10k miles. i use my truck everyday (dd) and usually notice a difference in the gas mileage before i change out the oil.
i recently did an oil change with mobil 1 ep. my decision to use mobil 1 ep as mentioned before was it was readily available at a time when i could do the change. when i use amsoil, i call my amsoil dealer on a tuesday and schedule a pickup on that saturday morning. he's a good guy who doesn't charge me shipping since i go to his house when my order arrives.
Okay, How do you drive at both WOT, but below the superchips limiter?? And the gas mileage and no tickets don't have anything to do with driving as you say, "like a race car driver." Like I said, I'm not going to compete with you on hard driving. Obviously your definition and mine are totally different.
if you are going to nit pick every little detail then go talk to spock....cause your getting boring
i never asked for it to be a competition..i was trying to drop the whole thing but you still wanted my definition
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