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#23 ·
Robby Diesel said:
If you're starting with a 3.7 or 4.7 you're going to be way into it then the truck evan worth. Buy a mustang if wanna go fast.
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you make no sense...a dakota with a 3.7 or 4.7 isnt worth modding, but a dakota that came with a 3.9, 5.2 or a 5.9 is more worth the time?

Robby Diesel said:
Not on a Terminator.
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and the terminator isnt tet average cookie cutter vehicle.
 
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#24 ·
The real mangum engines are better suited to building over the 3.7 and 4.7s, so dakotas that came with 3.9/5.2/5.9 are usually a better platform to start with. Won't need to re-wire/swap nearly as much. The parts for 4xRx trannys are easy to come by for high HP builds as well, and the more desirable trucks are already set up with them.

But nevermind all that, this thread is clearly now about boobies.
 
#25 ·
Five9Dak said:
The real mangum engines are better suited to building over the 3.7 and 4.7s, so dakotas that came with 3.9/5.2/5.9 are usually a better platform to start with. Won't need to re-wire/swap nearly as much. The parts for 4xRx trannys are easy to come by for high HP builds as well, and the more desirable trucks are already set up with them.
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real magnum engine? the newer ones are classified as a magnum even thought the air intakes say it.



and for a truck with the 4.7 (not sure on the 3.7 tranny) it has the same tranny as the 5.7...and those guys are pushing some numbers. and with any 01 up theres not much wiring to really do....especially since there is SCT out there now...one guy has already swapped a 5.7 in his truck, he just cut and adapted the 4.7 harness to the 5.7 (mainly just swapped the connectors that didnt match), then loaded a custom tune for the 4.7 computer to run the 5.7 (with cable drive TB)...now if you are basing your hemi swap info on hemidaks...yeah his was complicated because his was older than a 01.
 
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#26 ·
The "real" engine comment was a poke at the newer "magnums." The magnum engine family was originally a revision of the LA, with revised heads, pushrod oiling and some other changes.

Have fun with that 5.7 swap while everyone else is building nasty strokers for the same money with the hardware they already have.
 
#27 ·
Robby Diesel said:
Not on a Terminator.
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Uh... no

My 01 TA with the "free ram air" and headers and exhaust stopped SC cobras for breakfast (many of which had exhaust and intake work done also). If I boosted it I would have started looking for Vipers and exotics and never given another mustang or a second thought unless it was a shebly gt500 with 700 hp. Even then in the 1/4 my buddies C6 z06 it comes down to who cuts the light better (even with a 200 hp deficit).

modular motors simply can not breathe well and carol shelby has admited as much and the if he didnt have a contract with Ford he would be using the GM LSx engines.
 
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#29 ·
Five9Dak said:
Ford needs to get it's head out of it ass and stop putting tiny motors in pony cars.
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The 4.6L Mod Motor has been replaced with the 5.0L for the new Mustangs and the 6.2L is on it's way, so they're starting to figure it out lol :huh:
 
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#32 ·
viperkota said:
real magnum engine? the newer ones are classified as a magnum even thought the air intakes say it.
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Yes, the air intakes say it, yes the badging on the vehicle says it......still doesn't make it true.......

Production

1997-2004

Body style(s)

2-door pickup truck
4-door pickup truck

Platform

N/AN

Engine(s)

2.5*L AMC I4
3.9*L Magnum V6
5.2*L Magnum V8
5.9*L Magnum V8
4.7*L PowerTech V8
3.7*L PowerTech V6

That's straight from Dodge.......when Mercedes started messing with the engines, they used the merc. Engine, a Powertech, labeled as a Magnum......

You confused too? :huh:
 
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#33 ·
And to pull this thread back on topic,(if only for a minute) I think that the 6.1 swap would be easier than a stroker actually......splice in the mismatched connectors, sct the comp for a 6.1 setup.....if I recall correctly, the 03 had the 545 trans, like my 02 dango, and my dads 07 ram 3500 flatbed.....here's the deal...the 545 and 5.7l hemi that's in my dads truck moves 10,700lbs every time it moves.....and that truck is just as fast as my 318 pushing 4070 lbs thru an a518/46re.......so the 6.1 must be a fucking BEAST!!!!!!!! So, my vote is the 6.1......
 
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#34 ·
Five9Dak said:
The "real" engine comment was a poke at the newer "magnums." The magnum engine family was originally a revision of the LA, with revised heads, pushrod oiling and some other changes.

Have fun with that 5.7 swap while everyone else is building nasty strokers for the same money with the hardware they already have.
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you just have to know how to shop....
 
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#35 ·
bogieboy said:
Yes, the air intakes say it, yes the badging on the vehicle says it......still doesn't make it true.......

Production

1997-2004

Body style(s)

2-door pickup truck
4-door pickup truck

Platform

N/AN

Engine(s)

2.5*L AMC I4
3.9*L Magnum V6
5.2*L Magnum V8
5.9*L Magnum V8
4.7*L PowerTech V8
3.7*L PowerTech V6

That's straight from Dodge.......when Mercedes started messing with the engines, they used the merc. Engine, a Powertech, labeled as a Magnum......

You confused too? :huh:
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lol..damned typing..that word was suppose to be arent...not are
 
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#38 ·
bogieboy said:
Yes, the air intakes say it, yes the badging on the vehicle says it......still doesn't make it true.......

Production

1997-2004

Body style(s)

2-door pickup truck
4-door pickup truck

Platform

N/AN

Engine(s)

2.5*L AMC I4
3.9*L Magnum V6
5.2*L Magnum V8
5.9*L Magnum V8
4.7*L PowerTech V8
3.7*L PowerTech V6

That's straight from Dodge.......when Mercedes started messing with the engines, they used the merc. Engine, a Powertech, labeled as a Magnum......

You confused too? :huh:
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Not to be a dick, but Powertech was the name they used for the Jeep version. In the Dodges it was still a "Magnum":
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As far as Daimler messing with it, the 4.7L was in development long before they had any say so...
 
#39 ·
nitroram33 said:
Not to be a dick, but Powertech was the name they used for the Jeep version. In the Dodges it was still a "Magnum":
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As far as Daimler messing with it, the 4.7L was in development long before they had any say so...
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Yes, they called it a magnum........but it was not a true magnum......just cuz I rebadge a Dodge Viper as an SRT 4 Neon doesn't automatically make it a neon........
 
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#40 ·
bogieboy said:
Yes, they called it a magnum........but it was not a true magnum......just cuz I rebadge a Dodge Viper as an SRT 4 Neon doesn't automatically make it a neon........
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All "Magnum" is is a marketing term. I realize that the first round of Magnum engines were based on the LA engines, but the name has since been applied to numerous engines including the 4.7L and the 2.0L Neon engines when they were placed in Dodges. While in the Jeep the 4.7L and 4.0L were known as Powertechs after MY99. The same thing has happened repeatedly throughout history, including the first gen HEMIs, the big-blocks, etc. all depending on which make they were shoved under the hood of...

As for your argument of rebadging a Viper as a "SRT-4 Neon", I've got three points. First, that's fucking retarded, why would you want to hurt the Viper's feelings like that? Second, the SRT-4 based on the Neon was never actually referred to as a Neon by corporate and they tended to actually get sort of pissed at you for doing so. Third, just because you do something doesn't make it fact, but if the people who actually design and build the product do something then you pretty much have to go by what they say. :waiting:
 
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