Mount the 2008+ INTAKE on 1999-2007 4.7L engines.

BOOM_FIST · Feb 10, 2009

That is fucking killer.....now I just need some dyno numbers to see exactly what kind of gains I would get with this swap, and I'll start saving to get this swap done.

ajjacobs · Feb 10, 2009

Agreed, we are all paitently awaitng some data, before and after please.

AJ

AIR_RAM · Feb 10, 2009

ajjacobs said:
Agreed, we are all paitently awaitng some data, before and after please.

AJ

Well don't hold your breath guys... I will not even be around to test it anytime soon. Im sure there will be a couple of guys who will jump on this intake... but I cant say how long it would be before they posted their gains... Either way, this is now yet ANOTHER performance option AIR RAM has brought to the 4.7L community.

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

SLT kota · Feb 10, 2009

Do you think it would hurt low end power from the larger size?

ajjacobs · Feb 10, 2009

AIR_RAM said:
Well don't hold your breath guys... I will not even be around to test it anytime soon. Im sure there will be a couple of guys who will jump on this intake... but I cant say how long it would be before they posted their gains... Either way, this is now yet ANOTHER performance option AIR RAM has brought to the 4.7L community.

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

If you want to sell these would it not be in your best interest to pay for a few dyno runs and show the results? I am sure youve invested quite a bit in R&D to get to this point, why would you rely on other to report gains back to you?

AJ

SLT kota · Feb 10, 2009

ajjacobs said:
If you want to sell these would it not be in your best interest to pay for a few dyno runs and show the results? I am sure youve invested quite a bit in R&D to get to this point, why would you rely on other to report gains back to you?

AJ

He is serving overseas so he is a few thousand miles away from his truck. Also his new motor is far from stock.

Though if he wanted to send someone some parts I'm sure they would report back gains. I know I would... but for a massive discount. I can't afford to spend 700 bucks for an intake that I probably don't need.

moparsz · Feb 10, 2009

I'll test for him if he wants

BOOM_FIST · Feb 10, 2009

SLT kota said:
He is serving overseas so he is a few thousand miles away from his truck. Also his new motor is far from stock.

Though if he wanted to send someone some parts I'm sure they would report back gains. I know I would... but for a massive discount. I can't afford to spend 700 bucks for an intake that I probably don't need.

I second that volunteering. I would even promote this product, if the gains are substantial enough.

moparsz said:
I'll test for him if he wants

Non moddified 4.7's.....:nana:

MrMcQ · Feb 10, 2009

BOOM_FIST said:
I second that volunteering. I would even promote this product, if the gains are substantial enough.

Non moddified 4.7's.....:nana:

Mine is unmodified, i would be happy to test it for free....

mikset · Feb 11, 2009

How thick is the adapter? I'm guessing you'd have to modify the cai tube to make it fit, at least with the K&N fipk. I don't have a throttle body spacer but I know the the K&N won't work with one of those.

moparsz · Feb 11, 2009

BOOM_FIST said:
Non moddified 4.7's.....:nana:

That's not your decision, but I would love to try both of them out at the track. They open in roughly 1 month around here

AIR_RAM · Feb 11, 2009

Unfortunately, Its not going to be free for anyone... There is no need to make this mod free... its a better design intake... the question is how much better. Thats a fair question and Im sure it will be answered in time but by who we dont know.

Now if there are enough of you guys who are truly interested then we may be able to get a group purchase started... Now keep in mind this would only be for the adapters as that's the ONLY part I can control the price on when I buy quantities. In order to get a deeper discount we need to order no less then 5 at a time. Other then that our price can not budge.

This mod is for those who already have an idea about performance and want to have that edge to be the quickest and set new records. I personally don't feel like I need to test every single mod to prove anything to anyone, I have tested just about EVERY mod you guys know of and most the 4.7L information you know of has evolved from much of our own testing/verifying. Mind you my QUAD CAB 4.7L RAM is still faster then the 99% of your quickest 4.7L Dakota's! (9.49's)

If you want to go fast then you should consider stepping up and doing some of your own testing... over the last 6 years many of us have already spent thousands of dollars testing every new mod that has come to light. We have been paving the road for the 4.7L community ultimately getting it where it is today. Its about time some of you followers took a step forward and stopped waiting for the select few of us to do all your homework... We will do it eventually but since its not free for us (Leaders)... why should we make it free to a follower? Again guys... no free ride here, I cant afford them myself.

The ability is here... if you want it come and get it... if you want to wait and see what the gains are then.... wait and follow, these throttle body adapters will be here when/if you decide to do it. At this moment we targeting the leaders of the 4.7L revolution and providing the performance parts they need set records. Again I'm not trying to come off with a bad attitude (although after reading this back I can see it can be taken the wrong way)... Its just shocking to me at how many 4.7L owners complain that there is no aftermarket for the 4.7L engine, then when a mod comes out they justify why they should not buy it. There is an aftermarket for the 4.7L and its rather large. So if your not in the market for this intake please don't feel bad, just sit back and wait for someone to pave the road for you... again the question is not if this intake will be better then the past intakes... its how much better that is the question.

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

mrkindweiler · Feb 11, 2009

:clap2:

AIR_RAM · Feb 11, 2009

marticat83 said:
Is there any problems with the coils bolting up?

No, the coils will bolt up just as advertised... this intake is a direct bolt in with the only major difference being the throttle body mounting surface.

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

AIR_RAM · Feb 11, 2009

4.7l Intake Fun Facts

Here are some 4.7L INTAKE FUN FACTS. (Originally posted by Dodge3471 on dodge.talk.com)

We know its going to offer better gains then the 2003 intake based on what we have learned from dodge3471. He has spoken very highly of them since he works directly for Dodge and was part of the 4.7L engine program Dyno testing engines.

Dodge3471 said:
The original 4.7L's had 510mm intake runners. The HO intake when it cam out had 415mm intake runners. When the intakes were made common in 2003-2004 all 4.7L's got the 415mm HO intake runner lengths.

The 2008 4.7L intake has 350mm long intake runners and it will make the most HP of any 4.7L intake manifold. The 2008 4.7L cams are also good for over 305 SAE corrected flywheel HP.

The original HO lost core design flows more air and makes more power than the later common shell mold design, even though they both have 415mm intake runner lengths.

Original 4.7L SO intake has 510mm (20.0787 inches) intake runners and is a lost core design.

Original 4.7L HO intake has 415mm (16.3386 inches) intake runners and is a lost core design.

Common 4.7L SO/HO intake has 415mm (16.3386 inches) intake runners and is a shell mold design.

2008 4.7L intake has 350mm (13.7795 inches) intake runners and I'm unsure of the exact design.

The shorter the intake runners the stronger the top end HP. The HO intake manifold with it's 415mm long runners falls on it's face above 5200 RPM.

The 2008 4.7L intake manifold with it's 350mm long runners will pull strong to 5600-5800 RPM (not exactly sure of the final rev limiter.)

Also we are using common since, just looking at the intake shows a more fluent design. It looks to me that it would out perform the older intakes just by sitting it side by side with all the old school intakes I have stacked up in the shop.

We are confident it will out perform all other factory designs.

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

moparsz · Feb 12, 2009

AIR_RAM said:
Mind you my QUAD CAB 4.7L RAM is still faster then the 99% of your quickest 4.7L Dakota's! (9.49's)

Not mine :mullet: Sorry, just bragging :jester: I must be that 1% :jester:

Five9Dak · Feb 12, 2009

AIR_RAM said:
This intake has been rumored to be the best intake to have long before its release... This is from a chrysler Dyno Tech who literally tested them on the 4.7L engines... So I have no doubt its the best FACTORY intake hands down.

You should have litterally tested them too before you selling the combo to people for nearly 600 dollars who may already be heads/cam flow limited with the HO manifold being more than they need. "Looking better" and having shorter runners does not mean that on a given engine it will be a better performer, especially moving a heavy truck. I have no idea and neither do you, run it on a stock motor, ho cammed motor, heads/bigger cam motor and see. Or use the public for beta testing and don't cut them a deal cause you didn't want to buy dyno time, w/e.

I appreciate what you do for the 4.7 community but if you are going to produce a product, you could um... test it, that's part of the R&D cost you are needing to re-coup. Throw one on a stock truck and drive it down the street for a 70 dollar dyno session, lol.

You're not doing much for the community by bragging about a 14 second truck either.

RyanWJ · Feb 12, 2009

I'd be more than happy to test it at the track, as soon as I can afford to buy one.

AIR_RAM · Feb 12, 2009

Five9Dak said:
You should have litterally tested them too before you selling the combo to people for nearly 600 dollars who may already be heads/cam flow limited with the HO manifold being more than they need.

Should have? your completely uninformed. I suggest you read and understand before you post your coments... You use the term SHOULD HAVE as if I chose not to... LOL

This 2008 intake idea was the idea of MANY forum members asking us to look into making it fit the older 4.7L... so we did. HERE YOU ARE! Unfortunately the project was completed while Im deployed to Iraq. So dont sit there in the slow lane and tell me what I SHOULD HAVE DONE! You have no clue on what I should have done!

Five9Dak said:
"Looking better" and having shorter runners does not mean that on a given engine it will be a better performer, especially moving a heavy truck. I have no idea and neither do you, run it on a stock motor, ho cammed motor, heads/bigger cam motor and see. Or use the public for beta testing and don't cut them a deal cause you didn't want to buy dyno time, w/e.

Ummm well actuall YES it does! Shorter Runners does mean increased HP... Sorry but you clearly should study Engine Theory of Oppertion before you make comments like that.

And to say I have no idea is not the case... I do have an idea... Perhaps you have no idea... but I most certanly do. My idea comes from years of experience and a good grasp of the theory of opperation... so dont sit there and tell me I have no idea... because I do.

Five9Dak said:
I appreciate what you do for the 4.7 community but if you are going to produce a product, you could um... test it, that's part of the R&D cost you are needing to re-coup. Throw one on a stock truck and drive it down the street for a 70 dollar dyno session, lol.

Your tone shows no appreciation... If you appreciated what we have done you would have taken a different route...

I have an idea... You could um... wait till they are tested instead of flaming me for bringing them too you... Just jump in line with the other followers. Nobody is saying you need to buy these!!! LOL yeahh that is funny

Five9Dak said:
You're not doing much for the community by bragging about a 14 second truck either.

Well lets get our math right... thats a 14 second 5200LB truck with an NA 287ci to be more accurate... whats your 4300lb 4.7L truck run? Thats what I thought! Perhaps you should stick to a subject you have more information on.

In case you dont understand the situation I will break it down for you:

Im currently In Iraq right now and do not have the ability to test anything at this very moment. Sorry cant do it, but if you have been looking at the 2008 intake then its an option now... if you want to wait for somone to test it for you then wait! Dont sit there and tell me I need to Dyno a truck from 7,000 miles away when I have more important things to worry about then weather or not you agree with our product or not.

I have been more then STRAIGHT FORWARD and saying they have not been tested. And I have given my opinions which have been asked for. So If I want to list them for 300 bucks and a customer wants to buy them for that price then thats up to them. Im not making anyone buy anything... so sit back and follow... thats normally where the slow trucks park!

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

Captain Chaos · Feb 12, 2009

AIR_RAM said:
so sit back and follow... thats normally where the slow trucks park!

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

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Mount the 2008+ INTAKE on 1999-2007 4.7L engines.

BOOM_FIST

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AIR_RAM

SLT kota

ajjacobs

SLT kota

moparsz

BOOM_FIST

MrMcQ

mikset

moparsz

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AIR_RAM

AIR_RAM

moparsz

Five9Dak

RyanWJ

AIR_RAM

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