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Still doesnt change my feeling on people that rip others off...There should be no bad feelings in a transaction what so ever, Should be paid for, and shipped a reasonable amount of time, if that doesnt happen, communication becomes a large factor, where it seems some lack big time
 
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I think this is what happened here. Lack of good communication between the parties involved. Plus only one side of the story was posted. I don't have any bad feelings towards either person and I still consider them both friends.
 
I feel there should be a section dedicated to them, each post beginning with their user name, and what happened, then, the thread locked so noone can whore on it
There is already a section dedicated for people to post a user's name, what happened, and it's locked so other people can't whore it up - it's called iTrader.

Maybe people should start adding a simple comment to the thread that already exists in the for sale section, notifying people that they left negative feedback for a user - that will give people an opportunity to look at the feedback for both sides of the transaction and form their own opinion.
 
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Little sugar in the gas tank won't do anything except put sugar in his gas tank. Sugar does not disolve in gas and would just sit in the bottom of the tank causing absolutely no problems.

Not picking nits here, but sugar can cause some problems. The main one is if they put enough in it'll plug the filter sock and the external filter as well (if so equipped). It doesn't dissolve but makes a mess anyways. Have dealt with it a few times as an auto tech, not personally. If it does happen to get past the filters, it can lodge in the injector rail and injector screens and plug them up. Yes, I saw the Mythbuster's experiments. Love that show, but the myth was that sugar will ruin an engine. It won't ruin the engine but can make it quite due to lack of fuel. Anyways, enough of that for now.

On a side note, doing things to another persons vehicle for what ever reason is just wrong. All it does is lower yourself to their level.
 
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The vast majority of bad transactions are first-time occurances that blindsided the buyer because they didn't see it coming. There's nothing I can do to prevent first-timers except for reminding people about the advice that's already posted in the for sale forum - use common sense, use a method of payment that has some sort of recovery option (eg: paypal, money order), etc. The iTrader system has been provided so you can see who has followed through with their transactions and got positive feedback from the buyers.
There is one thing you might consider. I'm a mod on another large forum, and we had a few scammers back in the day. Eventually, we decided to start requiring certain information from sellers. To post a for sale ad, you need to include your full name, email, phone number, city, and state. ALL of it. On top of that, you can't post in the classifieds until you reach a set number of posts. It's cut our first time scammers to nearly zero. Any honest seller shouldn't have a problem giving up the info. The people who have something to hide are the ones you want to be a little careful dealing with.
 
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There is one thing you might consider. I'm a mod on another large forum, and we had a few scammers back in the day. Eventually, we decided to start requiring certain information from sellers. To post a for sale ad, you need to include your full name, email, phone number, city, and state. ALL of it. On top of that, you can't post in the classifieds until you reach a set number of posts. It's cut our first time scammers to nearly zero. Any honest seller shouldn't have a problem giving up the info. The people who have something to hide are the ones you want to be a little careful dealing with.
Now that sounds like a plan!! :mullet:
 
There is one thing you might consider. I'm a mod on another large forum, and we had a few scammers back in the day. Eventually, we decided to start requiring certain information from sellers. To post a for sale ad, you need to include your full name, email, phone number, city, and state. ALL of it. On top of that, you can't post in the classifieds until you reach a set number of posts. It's cut our first time scammers to nearly zero. Any honest seller shouldn't have a problem giving up the info. The people who have something to hide are the ones you want to be a little careful dealing with.
In a lot of cases though, it's the seller getting scamed, and not the buyer. How would this plan have any effect on the outcome of a seller trying to be the good guy and getting screwed on payments?
 
There is one thing you might consider. I'm a mod on another large forum, and we had a few scammers back in the day. Eventually, we decided to start requiring certain information from sellers. To post a for sale ad, you need to include your full name, email, phone number, city, and state. ALL of it. On top of that, you can't post in the classifieds until you reach a set number of posts. It's cut our first time scammers to nearly zero. Any honest seller shouldn't have a problem giving up the info. The people who have something to hide are the ones you want to be a little careful dealing with.
That is a very good idea.
 
In a lot of cases though, it's the seller getting scamed, and not the buyer. How would this plan have any effect on the outcome of a seller trying to be the good guy and getting screwed on payments?
You're right, it doesn't do anything to protect the seller. The seller is in a position to protect themselves though. I understand being a nice guy and trying to help out if someone is having hard times, but I wouldn't be shipping a product without payment in full. If someone can't afford to pay you in full on the spot, then you DEFINITELY know you're taking a risk offering a payment plan. Unless someone has stellar references, is willing to offer some sort of collateral, etc, shipping without cash in hand is always risky.
 
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I would have to agree with erfoster.

Doing so would help someone to track down the seller if they are being assholes by running off with the payment...

Sellers, You are responsible for making sure payment is in full before handing over the product(unless you know/trust/have worked out a plan w/ buyer). I personally don't ship/give the product until payment is in full. It just makes life easier. If the buyer is paying by check and seems rushed, you may have gotten a "bouncy-ball". Just because it's by check doesn't mean it's actually a real check.(I've been paid for building a computer by check(person seemed local and had a local check) and the check didn't clear.. He disappeared off the face of the earth. I went to PD and they said that person did not exist.):rant::rant:

This is my .02 cent.
 
Yea that, or go blow his shit up. :huh: Just a thought........:stirthepo
LOL what you gonna do T? Gonna lend him some C-4 or wrap the dudes house in det cord and cut it in half LOL? or maybe call a wart hog air strike on the dudes house. That would be actually kind of coolif you can call in a air strike.

Dude it sucks that you got shafted on a LOCAL transaction. I coudl see if it was a out of state deal. Personally i got better things to do than to screw someone out of hard earned money wether its a dollar or three hundred.
 
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LOL what you gonna do T? Gonna lend him some C-4 or wrap the dudes house in det cord and cut it in half LOL? or maybe call a wart hog air strike on the dudes house. That would be actually kind of coolif you can call in a air strike.

Dude it sucks that you got shafted on a LOCAL transaction. I coudl see if it was a out of state deal. Personally i got better things to do than to screw someone out of hard earned money wether its a dollar or three hundred.
Reading this.. I was thinking, "it'd be quicker to wrap his vehicle in det cable and blow it into 1/4's..."
 
I don't know how the laws are out there, but you should look into them with regards of not receiving payment for a product/services rendered. Some states allow you to go repossess the item back, usually with the police present.
 
I don't know how the laws are out there, but you should look into them with regards of not receiving payment for a product/services rendered. Some states allow you to go repossess the item back, usually with the police present.
However makes it fun without PD there, or, if they are cool and allow the use of their tasers
 
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Little sugar in the gas tank won't do anything except put sugar in his gas tank. Sugar does not disolve in gas and would just sit in the bottom of the tank causing absolutely no problems.

yeah it may not do anythign but I bet if i pour 30 pounds of it it will do something. LOL I much rather confront the person rather than their car.
 
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