Name That Noise!!!

Bos-R/T · Oct 31, 2009

InTeNsE98RT said:
Also its only the first 1-2 inches of turning the steering wheel left or right from center that the sound appears. I can actually feel the click through my hands in the steering wheel but im certain its coming from inside the steering wheel itself.

It might be that disc that is the contact points for the horn and cruise control.I would just take that housing off that goes around the steering column and see what you come up with.

ramayer · Nov 1, 2009

InTeNsE98RT said:
Well I put both bearing/hubs on. The only problem was with the new passenger side hub/bearing. It would only spin freely about 1/2 a turn and then almost like it had a rough spot and I had to force the bearing to turn. I just assumed it needed to be broke in a little and threw the wheels back on. I drove the truck and everything seems ok. No rubbing, grinding, squeaking, etc

I did notice something else that wasn't there before but its unrelated. My steering wheel ticks or clicks when I turn it left or right, I can feel it in the steering wheel. Im anal about this stuff especially when new shit pops up after I just repaired something. I wonder what it could be.

pass side bearing will definatly fail in the near future...if it had a rough spot in it then it was damaged from over tightening it.
as for th noise in the steering column it probably is something to do with the clock spring under the steering wheel.
....isn't it fun working on your own stuff on a regular basis?:wave:

ramayer · Nov 1, 2009

Bos-R/T said:
90 degrees is easy to do.Just start at 12 oclock and go to 3 oclock.Ive been tightening these hub assy's as long as I can remember with an inpact wrench and have never had a single comeback.As long as you dont use a 3/4 drive impact or sit there and hammer down on a 1/2 drive.I guess you would have to have every day experience with an impact to not over torque them.Like I said ive never had a problem with using impacts and ive been an independent shop owner for 12 years with no comebacks due to that.

roughly 90 degrees is easy to do but how do you know if you are not a degree or two off? I've been doing this for quite awhile also and have had issues from improper tourque ratings....:huh:
not trying to shit on you ....it may work fine for this application but it is not something that one should ever assume will work. and you have no way of knowing if you are exactly 90 degrees without an angle guage!

InTeNsE98RT · Nov 1, 2009

ramayer said:
pass side bearing will definatly fail in the near future...if it had a rough spot in it then it was damaged from over tightening it.
as for th noise in the steering column it probably is something to do with the clock spring under the steering wheel.
....isn't it fun working on your own stuff on a regular basis?:wave:

The passenger side bearing wasnt the one that was over tightened. I took it straight from the box and installed it.

InTeNsE98RT · Nov 1, 2009

If the bearing goes out you can bet your ass its going to be replaced under warranty.

ramayer · Nov 1, 2009

if it had a rough spot then should have taken it back ....if you don't mind having the truck laid up waiting for parts for a month like mine:rant:

l1tech · Nov 1, 2009

Sunds to me like the clockspring is going bad...that's what's clicking when you turn the steering wheel

Bos-R/T · Nov 1, 2009

l1tech said:
Sunds to me like the clockspring is going bad...that's what's clicking when you turn the steering wheel

Is that the same thing that when you turn the steering wheel it will try to move on its on?Ive been having problems with mine.I can turn a sharp curve and my steering wheel will go left to right if im not holding onto it tight enough.I can also sit there in park and turn the wheel with pressure and it feels like someone else is turning the wheel side to side but not as noticeable as when im taking a curve.Somebody told me it was some kind of sensor or something on the shaft in the truck.

Bos-R/T · Nov 1, 2009

ramayer said:
roughly 90 degrees is easy to do but how do you know if you are not a degree or two off? I've been doing this for quite awhile also and have had issues from improper tourque ratings....:huh:
not trying to shit on you ....it may work fine for this application but it is not something that one should ever assume will work. and you have no way of knowing if you are exactly 90 degrees without an angle guage!

I guess you have to have experience in it.Plus one or two degrees on a wheel hub assy wont hurt anything.Again thats what we are talking about.I never torque mine or my customers.I use an impact and have been in my shop for many years and have never had a comeback on doing it that way.Its a little different on the sealed bearings than the old type bearings.And when you go out and borrow or rent a used torque wrench you never know if its calibrated.It doesnt take much of an einstein to mess up a torque wrench.On alot of them if you loosen it up to much it will come off the bar inside and sometimes cant get it back in there.So when you go and torque it down and it never clicks then its all screwed up.
And actually you can get the angle right without using a gauge.In some older model Mercedes repair manuals and even on alldata it tells you that you can mark the head of the bolt at 12 and then tighten it 90 degrees.Which is at 3.

Now when he said a rough spot,was that with the rotor and caliper on?It could have been a rough spot in the rotor grabbing the pads.Either way to be on the safe side he could always take the wheel bearing back and tell them it feels funny and he wants it replaced.They should replace it for him without question.Just tell them it was like that when he bought it and you probably dont have to do that.And they will overnight one justr because they sold him a defective part.Or atleast the parts houses will do that in my area.

l1tech · Nov 1, 2009

Bos-R/T said:
Is that the same thing that when you turn the steering wheel it will try to move on its on?Ive been having problems with mine.I can turn a sharp curve and my steering wheel will go left to right if im not holding onto it tight enough.I can also sit there in park and turn the wheel with pressure and it feels like someone else is turning the wheel side to side but not as noticeable as when im taking a curve.Somebody told me it was some kind of sensor or something on the shaft in the truck.

The clockspring is for the airbag. Your issue sounds like a sticky pressure valve inside of the power steering pump.

Bos-R/T · Nov 2, 2009

l1tech said:
The clockspring is for the airbag. Your issue sounds like a sticky pressure valve inside of the power steering pump.

Thats what I thought too but replaced the pump and it was still there.See I dont know much of shit about domestic cars and am still learning.The only other domestic I have is a 2002 Z06 and it has 80mmTB,BBK headers,magnaflow cat back,vararam snake charmer CAI,and a diablosport predator tune.I own a import repair shop and have been in business for 12 years.Ive been to Honda school and Subaru school.My instructor in tech school was one of the top 5 honda techs in the late 80's so we mostly learned about Hondas.I dont work on any domestics except maybe a few exceptions with a couple of my really good customers.Someone told me theres a sensor on the steering shaft that could cause my problem.I think GM trucks have them.Beats me.:huh: I will figure it out one day.

ramayer · Nov 11, 2009

Bos-R/T said:
Is that the same thing that when you turn the steering wheel it will try to move on its on?Ive been having problems with mine.I can turn a sharp curve and my steering wheel will go left to right if im not holding onto it tight enough.I can also sit there in park and turn the wheel with pressure and it feels like someone else is turning the wheel side to side but not as noticeable as when im taking a curve.Somebody told me it was some kind of sensor or something on the shaft in the truck.

check your steering box...it could be bypassing in the spool valve

and I do have experience, I've done my own work on all of my cars I've ever owned, took both mech. and auto body in trade school and hav been working at a Volvo truck dealership since '97, running the body shop since '01.
grew up in my fathers several garages and do alot of work at home in my own shop. have built several cars domestic and import, new and old...I don't pretend to know everything but I do know enough.

Bos-R/T · Nov 11, 2009

ramayer said:
check your steering box...it could be bypassing in the spool valve

and I do have experience, I've done my own work on all of my cars I've ever owned, took both mech. and auto body in trade school and hav been working at a Volvo truck dealership since '97, running the body shop since '01.
grew up in my fathers several garages and do alot of work at home in my own shop. have built several cars domestic and import, new and old...I don't pretend to know everything but I do know enough.

Well I dont have a gear box in my truck.I have a rack n pinion.And I dont remember saying you didnt have any experience.I just said someone has to have experience in tightening with an impact or a regular torque wrench to not hurt the bearing or whatever it is your tightening.

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ramayer · Nov 19, 2009

still has a spool valve!

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