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first question is for people with a 99 dak or rango, the solid black wire thats thick as ground wire, is it postive or negative? its part of the harness on the driver side around the a/c compressor.


second for anyone, no spark whats so ever, so could this be the ecu and could a dealership check a ecu for bein any good?
 
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That might be your alternator output wire. What are you trying to do?

No spark at all? What preceded this? Is there any fuel? Might be a bad crank position sensor. Any codes?
swapping 3.9-5.9, got everything done and went to start it and the motor just turns over, got fuel i know, but pulled #2 plug and hooked a meter, tried to start again and watched the meter and nothing at all. so no spark at all, the alternator wire is already hooked up. CEL is on but i did the 3 turn switch and nothing happens.
 
Do you visually have a spark? Just grab a plug and touch if to a ground while still plugged into a plug wire. I'm assuming this hasn't run at all as a v8 yet? What'd you do for a harness? Just add the extra V8 injector wires? You're not still trying to use the v6 distributor are you? You have to use one from a V8. Don't ask.
 
Sorry for the stupid question but you did also put the 5.9L ECU in, yes?
There is no good way to actually test the ECU at the dealership, other than to eliminate everything else as a problem, which would then leave the ECU as the most likely suspect. Everytime I've ever replaced an ECU it's always been "I'm 99% sure that's the problem, but cross your fingers just to be sure!" Anyways, the ECU needs to see the crank signal to trigger the coil. Also, there should be B+ at the positive coil terminal when cranking. Double check all your fuses, just to be sure (you never know). Just went out to look at my truck (it's a '96 but is most likely similar) and one large black wire is the alternator output wire. Coming out of the small black "cube" on top of the alternator I have a SLIGHTLY smaller black wire with a white strip which is grounded to a bracket on top of the A/C compressor, along with another smaller black wire. The "cube" I'm referring to has the two small eyelets on the bottom which go over studs on the alternator with two small nuts on them. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what that cube is. Possibly a floating ground for RFI suppression? Anyways, wouldn't cause no spark. You may also want to double check your crank sensor air gap to the tone ring on the flywheel or flexplate. Should be about the thickness of a matchbook cover away. Easiest way is to take it out and stick a piece of the cover to the sensor, put it back in until it touches and snug the bolts up, or you may have know that already.
 
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Do you visually have a spark? Just grab a plug and touch if to a ground while still plugged into a plug wire. I'm assuming this hasn't run at all as a v8 yet? What'd you do for a harness? Just add the extra V8 injector wires? You're not still trying to use the v6 distributor are you? You have to use one from a V8. Don't ask.
no visual, i tested it using a ohm meter. last time i got a shock from a plug it wasnt nice -worst then a 110 ac shock- so i wont be doin that. the 360 came with a harness. no on the v6 distributor...?? i got a brass cap n rotor for the 360 from summit.
 
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Sorry for the stupid question but you did also put the 5.9L ECU in, yes?
There is no good way to actually test the ECU at the dealership, other than to eliminate everything else as a problem, which would then leave the ECU as the most likely suspect. Everytime I've ever replaced an ECU it's always been "I'm 99% sure that's the problem, but cross your fingers just to be sure!" Anyways, the ECU needs to see the crank signal to trigger the coil. Also, there should be B+ at the positive coil terminal when cranking. Double check all your fuses, just to be sure (you never know). Just went out to look at my truck (it's a '96 but is most likely similar) and one large black wire is the alternator output wire. Coming out of the small black "cube" on top of the alternator I have a SLIGHTLY smaller black wire with a white strip which is grounded to a bracket on top of the A/C compressor, along with another smaller black wire. The "cube" I'm referring to has the two small eyelets on the bottom which go over studs on the alternator with two small nuts on them. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what that cube is. Possibly a floating ground for RFI suppression? Anyways, wouldn't cause no spark. You may also want to double check your crank sensor air gap to the tone ring on the flywheel or flexplate. Should be about the thickness of a matchbook cover away. Easiest way is to take it out and stick a piece of the cover to the sensor, put it back in until it touches and snug the bolts up, or you may have know that already.
ill double check the crank sensor tomorrow, this wire i was thinkin was the ground wire as it had a battery connection to it but a smaller wire comin off was cut off. the truck is a 2000, and the harness is a 99 as for the motor, ive found the cruise plug to be different but my 00 ground was just by itself off the battery and not part of the harness.
 
My truck also has a seperate ground from the battery to the engine (and body). The ground wire I meant is the one at the alternator, it's not part of the actual battery cable assy. Speaking of grounds, is there one that you could have missed? Dakota's have about a million ground wires that mount all over the place. A bad engine ground or body ground could cause a no spark condition possibly. Anyways, let us know what you find and more importantly we want pictures of the black stripes on the pavement from your test drive!

Here's a couple pictures of the wire I'm referring to. As I said though, this is a '96 and yours might be different. Looking at these photo's makes me realize it's time for a little engine compartment cleaning, too!
 
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