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This applies more to the later New Venture models since the mid 90s or so and doesn't encompass the earlier New Process models such as the 203, 205 & 208.
Since we're not living in the 80's and 90's anymore, those models have little relevance to us anymore. ;)

Doesn't hold true in all cases like the 247, 249 and a few others.
It actually does if you know your transfer case terminology like I do. ;)
 

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Since we're not living in the 80's and 90's anymore, those models have little relevance to us anymore. ;)
Actually some do since the 231/242 have been in use since the early 80s and though they are similar there are differences both internally and externally that make a difference when sourcing parts for replacement or upgrading. It is best to be aware of these similarities and differences so you don't get burned when buying something that "should fit" because the numbers are the same.



It actually does if you know your transfer case terminology like I do. ;)
I know what they stand for also but it is not whether they are shifted manually or electrically in this instance.

:stirthepoThose of you that think you know it all are annoying to those of us that do.:funny:
 

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why or when would i need the full time option though??
having full-time (AWD) is nice anytime. You'll always have traction, you don't have to worry about whether or not you need 4wd. I've done a lot of serious off-roading and never gone into hi or lo lock on mine. Hell, the blizzard we had in '06/'07, 3ft of snow from one 36 hr storm, I was out transporting emergency personel, I was in 4hi (AWD mode) the entire time making my own roads and dodging portable snow drifts. Never once need lock.
 

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so your saying you think you know it all also?
Not anymore, as I get older I have relinquished that title to my children, just like my dad did to me during my teen years.:funny:
 

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It looks as though that there is a fair amount of aftermarket suport for the np231 as well. Short shaft kits 4:1 kits and I like that there is a kit for a vss. This would come in handy for the sas swap. :mullet:
 

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Actually some do since the 231/242 have been in use since the early 80s and though they are similar there are differences both internally and externally that make a difference when sourcing parts for replacement or upgrading. It is best to be aware of these similarities and differences so you don't get burned when buying something that "should fit" because the numbers are the same.
I was talking about the models I quoted like the 203, 205, & 208. ;)

I know what they stand for also but it is not whether they are shifted manually or electrically in this instance.
Since the topic of this thread is about putting a manual case into a truck made for an electronic case, this thread is indeed about the compatibility between the two. ;)

:stirthepoThose of you that think you know it all are annoying to those of us that do.:funny:
I get that a lot, and it still makes me laugh every time I read it. ;)
 

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anybody else have an opinion?? Anybody here ever swapped t-cases before? I'll possibly be looking at doing this swap in the fall/ winter. Ima guessing ima gonna loose part of my factory console to cut through the trans tunnel to allow for the shifter.
 

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anybody else have an opinion?? Anybody here ever swapped t-cases before? I'll possibly be looking at doing this swap in the fall/ winter. Ima guessing ima gonna loose part of my factory console to cut through the trans tunnel to allow for the shifter.
You could go with factory pieces from an earlier year for the shift assembly and use factory parts and pieces to cover all the holes.

Or you could use the universal shifter that Novak sells http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/kit_sk2x.htm . I had one of their shifters in my 93 Jeep ZJ with the 5.2/242 and it shifted way more positive than the factory linkage.
 

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So np 231 (part time) or np 242 (full time)?? Both will bolt in to an 03 dakota correct?? I like the full time option of the 242 but I know the 231 will bolt in without issue. What is the overall opinion of you dakota owners who regularily wheel their trucks??
 

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I've never had a problem in all the times I've wheeled mine, one thing I will say though, is that you do get too confident with the AWD. I've come close to biting off more than I could chew because I was too confident in the AWD and got into something that I should have been in lo loc to get through and ended up getting stuck.
 

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NP 242 came in the ZJ and the XJ. Looks like they came with 21 spline count vs the 231 which is a 23 spline count. Am I repeating info already posted??

I am leaning towards the 231. It looks like I am going to have to start pricing out a 231.

Can anybody tell me again which years and models vehicles fit the Dakota?? ie jeep to dodge etc.
 

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Most of them should fit, the difference will be the length of the input gear/slip yoke.. I have swapped between my truck, my XJ's, and a awd ZJ. All were the same, except the input gears. I have a spare input actually, so if you find one and it's not from a dodge PM me. Don't worry about the 4x4 light/shifter, another thing to look for would be to find one from a jeep and then use the speed sensor on the tcase when you swap the rear axle.

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What input are you using on the 231 (if out of a jeep)for the Dakota, a dakota one?? Sorry for the questions but I know very little on the subject.:sorry:
If the input is a different length you could probably use the input from your 233 in the 231 since other than the electric shift it is basically the same t-case. Be aware that there was a slight change in the gear cut angle in the planetary section of the New Process/New Venture cases in about 95 or so and your input will not work with the pre 95 cases.
 

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Be aware that there was a slight change in the gear cut angle in the planetary section of the New Process/New Venture cases in about 95 or so and your input will not work with the pre 95 cases.

I won't be shopping for a pre 2000 case so that won't be an issue thanx for the info though. I am pretty sure I can use the input out of my 233 if the 231 is different.
 

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In this whole thread no one said any thing about the NV244 full time case used in the 02-03's .It's AWD (haha)really FWD until wheel slippage is senced then kicks in the rear through a slip/lock diff in case. Or switch to 4H and lock all 4. 2L for crawling and Nuetral.:funny:
 
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If I have the 231 now in my durango could i "upgrade" to the 242 with minimal modification?
 
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