[5.2/5speed]

I'm starting a group buy for the M1 intake turtles that are made by Salarguy. Salarguy is a member on this forum and has been supplying intake turtles for the Mopar M1 manifolds for years. He said he can only make them in lots of 10 so that's the reason I am initiating this group buy. I will probably be ordering two for myself, so I only need 8 other people to make this thing work.

I know many people are going to ask what an intake turtle is so here's a quick explanation. It's a piece of aluminum that is cone shaped and you secure it to the inside of your M1 intake manifold. It sits in the center at the bottom and helps direct the incoming air into the runners more efficiently by making a more even and smooth path. Many people complain about low end torque loss that is associated with the M1 intake manifolds and these intake turtles help to restore that loss. The M1 intakes are flat at the bottom of the inside and the air flow is disrupted by this spot, especially at low rpm when the air flow velocity is not as high. By having the intake turtle installed it eliminates this flat spot and improves the flow properties of the M1 intakes.

If you are interested in buying one of these for either your 2bbl or 4bbl M1 intake manifold here is what you need to know.

SIZES:

2bbl- There is two sizes for the 2bbl which are the standard size or the X/L size. Salarguy says the X/L is for stock or near stock engines and the standard size is for a modified or stroker engine.

4bbl- There is only one size for the 4bbl and it is the standard one.

PRICES:

2bbl: EGR intake manifold (standard or X/L size) is $65 USD
Non-EGR intake manifold (standard or X/L size) is $60 USD

4bbl: One version for $60 USD

All the prices include shipping.

The kits come complete with hardware and installation instructions.

The only payment method Salarguy accepts is money order in US funds.

If you are serious about buying one of these I will send you his name and address that you can mail your money order and info to. The info that he needs is whether or not you have a 2bbl or 4bbl. If it’s a 2bbl then you have to say which size you want and whether it is the EGR or Non-EGR version. Also, give him the address you want the turtle shipped to and finally some contact info just in case he needs to get a hold of you.

I am going to post this information on other sites so hopefully I can get 8 others to buy them as well. We won’t send any money until we know that we have 10 confirmed buyers.

If you have any questions about the group buy don’t hesitate to ask me. Also if you have more questions about the intake turtles themselves you can get a hold of Salarguy on www.bionicdodge.com , he uses the same username on there.

Here is a picture of an intake turtle inside a 2bbl M1 intake manifold.

 

[jrp1588]

How does this secure to the non-egr manifold?

 

[Adobedude]

How does this secure to the non-egr manifold?

1-drill hole.
2-see #1 above.

 

[jrp1588]

3-??
4-Profit

 

[Jstrag360]

They go in through the top? How much low end pickup

 

[5.2/5speed]

They go in through the top? How much low end pickup

Yea they fit through the opening at the top of the intake manifold. You can see from the picture in the first post how it will just drop in then you secure it with the hardware that is provided in the kit.

As for the low end power that you might be able to gain, that is a difficult question to answer because every engine set up is different. Also it depends on whether you have the 2bbl or 4bbl intake. I will message Salarguy to see what he says the typical gains are from his intake turtles.

 

[RustyCoupe]

Can you get pics of the 4bbl Turtle. I need one for my 4bbl m1 but wondering about height installed in intake.... lol just a curiousity but like to see what Im spending 60 bucks on.

 

[Jstrag360]

Heads, cam, full exhaust, etc.

 

[5.2/5speed]

Can you get pics of the 4bbl Turtle. I need one for my 4bbl m1 but wondering about height installed in intake.... lol just a curiousity but like to see what Im spending 60 bucks on.

I asked Salarguy for a picture, I'll post it up if he sends me one.

Heads, cam, full exhaust, etc.

I also asked Salarguy if he has any torque or horsepower figures that can be expected by installing one of his turtles. I'll let you know when he gets back to me.

 

[340DART]

Count me in. I will try anything to get some of the kegger low end back.

 

[5.2/5speed]

Just wanted to let people know that Salarguy's turtles are actually a conical shape. I originally thought they were the pyramid shape ones but I was wrong. I have updated the original post and also changed the picture.

 

[5.2/5speed]

Can you get pics of the 4bbl Turtle. I need one for my 4bbl m1 but wondering about height installed in intake.... lol just a curiousity but like to see what Im spending 60 bucks on.

Salarguy said he doesn't have any pics of a turtle installed in a 4bbl or even a 2bbl for that matter. His computer was destroyed in a flood so he lost all his pictures. He told me to search on dodgetruck.org and also bionicdodge.net for some pics but I could only find ones installed in a 2bbl M1.

Here are some additional photos. Also, the standard size turtle for the 4bbl is the same size as the 2bbl standard size which is the one in these pictures. So the actually turtle size for the 4bbl would be the same as these ones.

 

[5.2/5speed]

They go in through the top? How much low end pickup

For anyone wondering about power gains this is what Salarguy had to say, "The bottom line is that it moves the torque curve down so that the torque comes in at a lower rpm. This is done to reduce or eliminate the off idle and off cruise lag long associated with the M1 series Magnum Manifolds. The max torque should not change but the horsepower may be up slightly due to increased runner speed."

 

[5.2/5speed]

So far:

1. 5.2/5speed
2. 5.2/5speed
3. 340DART

We need 7 more people. Salarguy doesn't make these very often. Don't miss out.

 

[Jstrag360]

Put me on the list. No money rite now, pay when you have all 10?

 

[5.2/5speed]

Put me on the list. No money rite now, pay when you have all 10?

Yea we won't send any money until we have 10 confirmed buyers. So that might still be a little while.

 

[5.2/5speed]

1. 5.2/5speed
2. 5.2/5speed
3. 340DART
4. Jstrag360

 

[Jstrag360]

Lol yea looks like its moving a little slow. Figure id have the money by ordering time lol.

 

[Shimrra]

can this be installed with the intake on the truck? (i'm guessing yes, but i need to ask)

 

[5.2/5speed]

can this be installed with the intake on the truck? (i'm guessing yes, but i need to ask)

I just emailed Salarguy for you so I'll see what he says. Maybe someone can fill us in on this but I think the EGR version already has a hole so maybe there isn't any drilling required for that one. Is yours an EGR or Non-EGR version?