luckily for you i do know what rarefied means. i would go so far as to say that the group of people that actually have decent knowledge and know how of how to make these trucks quick is very esoteric. not only that but also very egotistical as well, just like you find in the bimmer community. it's not nearly as much of the actual finanical issue that i am pointing to. however, comparatively speaking to other production based pushrod V8s, these trucks carry a hefty price tag to go fast. also look at who generally owns these trucks... i'm pretty sure that in general they are not the same demographics as a bimmer owner so if you're looking at what percentage of someone's income they spend on modding cars... i think you get the picture.
Ok then. I didn't look at it that way, but you're right.
You kind of really put the light on the real problem in these forums, if you don't mind me putting the flange thing on the side for a minute. There is a lot of egos working amongst these various tuner shops. I've seen nothing but theft, deception, and outright lying around them. People are vicious with this stuff.
John was the first person I talked to when I was buying my truck, and he warned me about that. He did NOT talk bad about any specific shop, nor did he mention names. I did my research and I was not impressed by all the people who simply said this about him, "Call John, he'll take care of you." Because of this, and because the things he said went contrary to what the other shops were doing, I ended up buying a competitors "package". Which was something he also warned me about, since he prefers to design his stuff around what people want, not numbers off a menu. If I ever met you in person I'd bring my laptop and show you the months of emails between us where he was trying to iron out what he would do for me. I found it frustrating, because I was used to packages in the BMW world myself. Now that its all done with, I prefer the way he treated me.
I've ended up learning way more than I ever thought. So now here I am saying the same damn thing that I originally found aggravating - call John and he'll take care of you. I can see where that would piss someone off, because I was there. From the other side of things, it makes sense now.
Egos get out of control here, and everyone wants to make a point and go away thinking they "showed" someone or "owned" them. I've been there, done that, grew up. We're kind of stalled here until this flange can be explained, or at least we can get some numbers, right?
So everyone - take it down a few notches. Or is it going to be a fist fight at the Nationals this year? :argue: