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[HOW-TO][HVAC][Gen III Dakota][Gen I Durango] Blower Resistor Diagnosis/Replacement

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Since this question, or variations of it, comes up quite often I thought I’d write a thorough how-to which can be linked to or (hopefully) found in a search.


SYMPTOM:

Your heating & air conditioner blower motor suddenly stops working, only works on certain speeds, or just seems to not blow as hard as it used to.

Applies to (as far as I know):
2001 – 2007 Durango
2001 – 2004 Dakota


SOLUTION:

99.9% of the time your blower motor resistor block has gone bad. The resistor block is part of the ground path of the blower motor circuit, which in conjunction with the fan speed selector switch controls the speed of the fan by varying the amount of resistors in the electrical path (more resistors = slower speed, fewer resistors = higher speed). This is an easy fix and the new part costs less than $20. If you’re like me and would like to know for sure, read ahead to the “Troubleshooting” section. If you want to play the percentages and just go ahead and change it, skip ahead to the “Removal & Replacement” section.


TROUBLESHOOTING:

In order to troubleshoot the resistor block it will be easiest if it is removed from the truck (see Removal and Installation in post #2). Use the following diagram for this procedure.



Pin 2 at the top left goes to the motor, 1, 3, 4, & 5 go to the switch. What happens is a positive source is routed through a fuse and the ignition switch straight to the motor. The ground for the motor is routed through the fan speed selector switch and in turn the resistor block. When you rotate your switch, you are actually controlling the routing of the motor ground through this resistor block. Notice how if the ground goes through pin 5 then out pin 2 it has to pass through 3 resistors? That would be your low speed. See how there is a direct path between pins 1 and 2? That is your high speed. More resistors, lower speed.

If you look closely at the plug, you can read the pin numbers. Older styles may not have these numbers, so use the following picture:



With the connector tab at the top, pin 1 is on the left, pin 5 on the right.

It may also be on the vehicle side of the plug:



Measure from the following points (you should see approximately the following readings).

pin 2 to pin 1 = 0.2 ohms (very little resistance)
pin 2 to pin 3 = 0.7 ohms (some resistance)
pin 2 to pin 4 = 1.3 ohms (more resistance)
pin 2 to pin 5 = 2.4 ohms (most resistance)

If any of those combinations have no continuity, something is wrong with the resistor block. If all those resistance readings are correct, or you just love troubleshooting, you can do the following two steps by disconnecting the blower motor plug. (Here is what you’re looking for, follow the black and green wires around towards the front of the truck to find the motor plug)



1. Disconnect the blower motor plug (seen disconnected in the following picture, for this step you want the plug indicated by the blue arrow) and connect a wire between pin 2 and ground, then between pin 1 and a 12v source (fuse block, battery, etc…). This will verify the blower motor functions correctly. Notice in the picture the plug is held up by two friction tabs, you can pull down and release those tabs for easier access.



2. Using the following diagrams, and with the blower motor plug disconnected, connect one lead of your meter to pin 1 of the vehicle side of the plug (Red arrow), then the other meter lead to a suitable ground. Verify the resistor block is plugged in to the vehicle harness. Rotate the fan speed selector switch through all the positions and watch the resistance change on the meter (should be similar readings as above). This will verify your speed selector switch and all the wiring has proper continuity. If any resistance reading seems incorrect, and you have already separately checked the resistor block, continue to troubleshoot the speed selector switch and the electrical connectors themselves.






Continued in post #2
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great write-up. just changed mine. no melted connections on mine, simple plug and play for me.
Changed mine on Friday. Works great, but the new motor is a bit noisy on MAX A/C. Oh well, at least the A/C works.
awesome instructions on the resistor man

my question is:
have any of you replced the wire harness
I see that it has two connetor
the bolower
the resistor

I just ordered wire, resistor, blower after trying a new resistor it metled everything but I had at least low med and med high setting for my fan, someone has indicated that I could lub the bearings on the blower so I did. Not to long after everything stoped working.

After much research I found that in many cases the reason the fan won;t work right is that the blower motor draws to much juice from the resistor and makes it fail, after replacing the resistor for a newer better version from dodge my wires melted. So this is where I am now,

189 blower motor
95 wires
14 resistor pack.

If any of you know if it will be easy to plug in or if I have to manually reqire the thing once I get the hardness I would really appreciate it.

Dan
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You got ripped off. But yeah, I replaced all three. No big deal. And I did it for $70 total, too. Good luck, hope it works out great like mine.
wires

can you say if the wires are hard to chagne or are they all connectors? Do you have any advice?
prices in canada are a bit higher I guess :(
I just had to splice the harness together with the wires I had cut when I cut the old one off. Just some butt splices and it took me like 5 minutes. Hardest part is getting the resistor screws back in, it's tight in there and you will be standing on your head.
wier harness

It was in fact easy. I do want to add for this group, my harness cam in the form of about 20 wires about 20 inch long half were purple the other half bigger gauge green. Also included in the kit were small thin connectors and the actual black clip that plugs into the resistor.

You only need 5 wires, two of the bigger gauge and three of the smaller

pins 1 pink wire, pin two green wire, pin 3 light bleu, pin 4 bleu/yellow pin 5 brown/balck

My new set of wires came with a connector at one end, I had to remove the cap from teh black female connector and a white rubber band. passing all 5 wirers threww the cap and rubber band and replacing the cap.

With wires now in the connector I spliced the other end to the cut wires underneath the dash with the supplied shrink wrap tubs.

I had allot of spare parts when I was done. shoot I wonder how dodge can get away with selling such a stupid little kit for 100 bucks canadian on an issue that is very well known and documented. You would think that they could build a better fan/resistor combo.
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It was in fact easy. I do want to add for this group, my harness cam in the form of about 20 wires about 20 inch long half were purple the other half bigger gauge green. Also included in the kit were small thin connectors and the actual black clip that plugs into the resistor.

You only need 5 wires, two of the bigger gauge and three of the smaller

pins 1 pink wire, pin two green wire, pin 3 light bleu, pin 4 bleu/yellow pin 5 brown/balck

My new set of wires came with a connector at one end, I had to remove the cap from teh black female connector and a white rubber band. passing all 5 wirers threww the cap and rubber band and replacing the cap.

With wires now in the connector I spliced the other end to the cut wires underneath the dash with the supplied shrink wrap tubs.

I had allot of spare parts when I was done. shoot I wonder how dodge can get away with selling such a stupid little kit for 100 bucks canadian on an issue that is very well known and documented. You would think that they could build a better fan/resistor combo.
VERY good info. I just got mine used from a guy on here, so it was 5 wires, color coded. But that's dang confusing with all those extras you had.
Desparately need the harness

Gentlemen,

Please let me know where exactly I can order the wireing harness. I have replaced the resister and the blower but clearly the harness is trashed and probably not helping the situation.

Thank you SO SO SO much.

[email protected]
I posted a wanted thread on here and somebody with an extra sold it to me. Either that or you might have to get ripped off at the dealer. Or a junkyard.
This is great information and very helpful. I am a rookie at this, but it was amazingly easy. However, I have a concern. When testing the fan the resistor was extremely hot to the touch. ... is that normal ? I have yet to attach it under the dash. The fan is working properly at all speeds, but I want to make sure I am not missing something. Note: I only replaced the resistor, but wiring harness and connections looked good/clean.
My fan control just stopped today. It works on high with a/c, but as soon as I change it to a lower speed the fan quits and the compressor kicks off. Is this symptomatic of the resistor block?
This is great information and very helpful. I am a rookie at this, but it was amazingly easy. However, I have a concern. When testing the fan the resistor was extremely hot to the touch. ... is that normal ? I have yet to attach it under the dash. The fan is working properly at all speeds, but I want to make sure I am not missing something. Note: I only replaced the resistor, but wiring harness and connections looked good/clean.
I believe the reason the resistor is located inside the vent system is so that it will be cooled down by the air blowing while the fan is on. It obviously shouldn't overheat, the wires shouldn't be getting hot and melting.


My fan control just stopped today. It works on high with a/c, but as soon as I change it to a lower speed the fan quits and the compressor kicks off. Is this symptomatic of the resistor block?
Yes.
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However, I have a concern. When testing the fan the resistor was extremely hot to the touch. ... is that normal ? I have yet to attach it under the dash.
Yes they do get hot that's why they put them where they do (in the air flow). Any time you add resistance to the flow of electricity it makes heat Letting them hang out in the open is not good because there is no air flow going over the resistor.



Do the 04's have the old style resistors? I'll answer my own question yes they do. So I spent $7.42 and bought a new one.

To the guy that thought his air flow was better it should be my resistances are higher on the old than the new one.

NEW
2-1 0.4ohm ....HIGH
2-3 0.7omh ....MEDIUM-2
2-4 1.3ohm ....MEDIUM-1
2-5 2.4ohm ....LOW

OLD
2-1 0.6ohm ....HIGH
2-3 0.9ohm ....MEDIUM-2
2-4 1.7ohm ....MEDIUM-1
2-5 3.7ohm ....LOW
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It was in fact easy. I do want to add for this group, my harness cam in the form of about 20 wires about 20 inch long half were purple the other half bigger gauge green. Also included in the kit were small thin connectors and the actual black clip that plugs into the resistor.

You only need 5 wires, two of the bigger gauge and three of the smaller

pins 1 pink wire, pin two green wire, pin 3 light bleu, pin 4 bleu/yellow pin 5 brown/balck

My new set of wires came with a connector at one end, I had to remove the cap from teh black female connector and a white rubber band. passing all 5 wirers threww the cap and rubber band and replacing the cap.

With wires now in the connector I spliced the other end to the cut wires underneath the dash with the supplied shrink wrap tubs.

I had allot of spare parts when I was done. shoot I wonder how dodge can get away with selling such a stupid little kit for 100 bucks canadian on an issue that is very well known and documented. You would think that they could build a better fan/resistor combo.
This post helped me out a bit. Quite a bit. I bought the kit and damn near sharted myself when I saw all them wires. So kudos to this post. Thank you. I'm going to post pics of the process tonight while I'm doing it that way some peeps know how to solder! and also what to expect
I have an 04' Dak. I have had to replace the resistor 3x and now will be 4 ! My question is that if I have any kind of power surge or spark ( during wiring of fog lights ) the resistor goes. Any ideas ? Could I have a ground problem ? or possibly the motor is drawing too much amps ? Suggestions welcome !!
What brand of resistors are you buying? Any yes a failing BM can burn them out.
NEW
2-1 0.4ohm ....HIGH
2-3 0.7omh ....MEDIUM-2
2-4 1.3ohm ....MEDIUM-1
2-5 2.4ohm ....LOW

OLD
2-1 0.6ohm ....HIGH
2-3 0.9ohm ....MEDIUM-2
2-4 1.7ohm ....MEDIUM-1
2-5 3.7ohm ....LOW
That's great info for the thread, thanks for posting. I never thought to compare the resistance readings between old and new. In retrospect I should have put that in the original post.

On another note, for all those shocked at the price of a new harness (I forget exactly what my dealer quoted me, but I remember thinking, 'are you fucking kidding me?') don't rule out the cheapskate method I chose. After my second resistor overheated and destroyed the plug, I cut the factory plug off, stripped the wires, and soldered the fuckers direct to the new resistor. It's not too hard if you have basic soldering skills and it's held up for quite a while now (8 months or so). There's still going to be a lot of heat generated, maybe enough to melt the solder. I'll keep you all posted as to how this repair holds up.
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On another note, for all those shocked at the price of a new harness (I forget exactly what my dealer quoted me, but I remember thinking, 'are you fucking kidding me?') don't rule out the cheapskate method I chose. After my second resistor overheated and destroyed the plug, I cut the factory plug off, stripped the wires, and soldered the fuckers direct to the new resistor. It's not too hard if you have basic soldering skills and it's held up for quite a while now (8 months or so). There's still going to be a lot of heat generated, maybe enough to melt the solder. I'll keep you all posted as to how this repair holds up.
Still holding up?
Replaced the one in the 'Ol lady's Durango tonight.
Put a resistor in it last year about this time. Had to replace the connector this time. That has been a bitch!

$75! At the dealer. Think they could at least put it together.
20 bucks with all the wires put in the connector would be ripping us off!

That said.. I have searched pretty hard.
Haven't found anything on putting the connector together.

The wires go through the back of the connector.
Pop off the end. Pull out the rubber grommet, and push the connectors in. Then on the other side push the blue piece up to lock it.


I was trying to put the wire in from the connector side at first.
Hope this helps someone in the future.


Now what are the little plastic pieces for in the kit?
What kind of grease are you using on the connection?
I turned the fan on with the resistor out, it sure got hot quick.
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