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Well I knew changing the 16 plugs was gonna be a pain in the behind when the time came and well 215000km and I think it’s time to change the original plugs... myself.

Well it went fairly well considering the difficulty of the back three cylinders, but when I got to the final plug on the front drivers side of the engine, in my excitement of being almost done I cranked the plug the wrong way and snapped the nut clear off the flange.

After a mild panic attack, I collected myself and faced the reality of the situation. Either I get that plug out or I’m in for a painfully expensive adventure.

I researched the best methods to extract plugs and found two types of easy out I could try.

I bought both, and tried the square one first. It would bite and then just start spinning, just boaring more metal shavings.

I tried the spiral version, but although I could get it to bite deep into the plug, I could feel the whole thing twist unnervingly, just ready to snap the easy out off in the bore.

I tried for hours and even with plenty of penetrant couldn’t get it to budge. And fearing I would break the bit was killing me so I stopped.

Here are some pics. Any ideas?

This is the plug after trying the square easy out which just kept stripping it out more

This is the easy out, embedded deep in the plug. Notice how it is about 1/2” deep inside the tube. I can’t find any tools to drive it solidly.

This is the square end of the easy out. I can’t find any solid 4 point socket to drive it anywhere. The 10mm 12point I am using is just stripping out. If I could just get a square socket to fit the easy out I could give it more force without worrying about breaking it off.

This is the spiral easy out set I bought

This is the plug after using the spiral type easy out which bit hard into the plug but still wouldn’t give. Feels like it’s going to snap off.

This is the square easy out I tried first.

I’m at a loss guys. Any suggestions (or condolences) welcome!


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I had this happen a few years ago with my 318. I purchased the spiral type and just took my time. Spray with lots of penetrating oil. (I prefer PB Blaster) let it soak in few a few days, then wrench on it. If it just won't come out, or you broke the easy-out, your absolute last option is to remove the head, drill out the broken plug without damaging the threads and retap...Or you may have to replace the entire head.

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I had this happen a few years ago with my 318. I purchased the spiral type and just took my time. Spray with lots of penetrating oil. (I prefer PB Blaster) let it soak in few a few days, then wrench on it. If it just won't come out, or you broke the easy-out, your absolute last option is to remove the head, drill out the broken plug without damaging the threads and retap...Or you may have to replace the entire head.

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Thanks for the advice. I looked everywhere for PB Blaster but every store was cleaned out of the stuff. I had some liquid wrench on hand.

We are beginning to get freezing weather now and my truck was ice cold when I first tried the extractors. Now the truck has been sitting plugged in to the house overnight and the engine is nice and warm to the touch.

But I will take your advice and let the penetrant creep in for another day or so, then I’ll try wrenching again. Hopefully the warm engine will help. It’s 30 degrees out right now and only expected to get colder.


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SUCCESS!!!

I don’t know if it was the 2 days of soaking, the engine heater being plugged in overnight but I just gave up on the wrenching and pulled out the lil red stubby and gave it a whack.

Came right out.

So my advice to anyone who encounters this is

1. Don’t panic. I almost lost my mind when the plug snapped on me. Get yourself a no.5 spiral type easy-out, and 4.7 owners WILL need a #8, 4-point snap-on socket, to drive the easy-out

2. Soak, soak and soak again. Let sit for at least 2 days.

3. If you’re in the northern climate, plug in the engine block heater and put a blanket over the engine overnight. Don’t try it on a freezing cold engine.

4. Use an impact and go easy.

5. Next time, don’t have a brain fart and crank the spark plugs the wrong way like I did in my excitement of almost being finished. Righty tighty. Lefty loosie

Here’s the only socket I could find that would fit into the tube AND has the correct sized square socket to drive the no.5 easy out. Purchased from the snap on truck for $20









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I'm sure it was a huge relief to get that thing out. Glad that you got it done, and appreciate the follow up.
 

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Good job sir! I woulda been lazy n went with new head! Hahahaha
Thanks

The thought crossed my mind believe me. I was afraid of possibly poking a hole in my piston or scoring my cylinder bore with my luck. But i got the shavings out with a long magnet and found the easy out didn’t protrude past the electrode so my cylinder was safe.

Sure was a hair raising couple days though let me tell ya. I sure didn’t sleep well last night thinking about it.


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Here’s a video I just made after the spark plug change. I start her up and listen for any issues, then we go for a little boot during the first snowfall of the season. Perfect time for a rip with the four-by.

BEST WITH HEADPHONES

Enjoy!


I believe The truck is running smoother and quieter now. I’ve never changed the exhaust side plugs since day 1 and I wish I changed them sooner. There seems to be noticeably increased power with the fresh plugs and oil.




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Yeah regular maintenance definitely helps with the overall health of the vehicle!
 

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Why did u put a ram badge on your dak? And FYI the leafs blow! Let’s go Rangers!!! I know it’s probably illegal to tint your front windows in Ontario (it’s illegal in BC as well, but I still did it!) but it would make your ride that much better.
 

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Why did u put a ram badge on your dak? And FYI the leafs blow! Let’s go Rangers!!! I know it’s probably illegal to tint your front windows in Ontario (it’s illegal in BC as well, but I still did it!) but it would make your ride that much better.
Because it’s my truck not yours, simple as that. Lol.

The ram badge was from a buddy who changed his to black and I thought why not try it out for a while. I change it up often. I kind of like it. The 2011 Dakota was under the ram badge, so I think it’s not a complete sacrament.

And I did have the windows tinted even the back window and thick brow on the windshield and got a fine and they made me remove it roadside. The same cop has pulled me over for the stupidest things. I think he just hates my truck. Maybe because I got off the last BS rolling stop sign fine he nailed me with (Dash cam paid for itself)


My Dak With illegal tint.

Ain’t democratic socialism GREAT?!

But yeah I totally agree the leafs blow and I no longer watch any major league sports. They can take their political crap and shove it. It’s all fixed anyway. Like everything else these days...

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Hahaha. I just asked as I’ve never seen a Dakota with Ram badges. It’s looks strange as I’ve owned all 3 generations and never saw this before. But that’s the beauty of building your own truck....who cares what others think! I hate cops as well...especially being a retired USMC in Canada. Bunch of morons on a good day! Well keep up the good work on the truck and I look forward to seeing more mods from you.
 

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Hahaha. I just asked as I’ve never seen a Dakota with Ram badges. It’s looks strange as I’ve owned all 3 generations and never saw this before. But that’s the beauty of building your own truck....who cares what others think! I hate cops as well...especially being a retired USMC in Canada. Bunch of morons on a good day! Well keep up the good work on the truck and I look forward to seeing more mods from you.
At least once or twice a month someone randomly tries to buy it from me when I’m out driving it. And I’m not talking just casually or jokingly. I mean I get serious solid cash offers. Even when I get oil changes and mechanical work done. Always an offer.

Lots of guys have approached me in parking lots with compliments on its condition and tons of questions. I’ve even had two separate times where a guy knocked on my front door asking if I would sell it.

And I don’t blame them. It was just repainted two years ago, it’s got a fairly unique and different look to it and it’s lifted, which makes the truck very attractive. You know, the way I have my truck set up is really the way they should have built it standard from factory.

When I tell people it’s a 13 year old truck they double take... Most people tell me they swore they though it was brand new. Not many vehicles can pass for brand new after 13 years.


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