Clean the valley the best you can, soak up the “oily-ATF soup” with rags. Put everything back together, check your PVC system and thermostat. Do a couple of 1000 mile oil and filter changes and you'll be OK.
Yep, came to that conclusion. Too much work to pull the motor. Good eye on checking the PCV, they were completely clogged up. Thermostat was old but still worked okay.
I’m not sure if this is ”sticky thread“ worthy but after a ton of lurking thru old forums, it’s seems that these Magnum engines have had a long history with sludge build-up. From poor PCV design, to Penzoil pushing their terrible line of oil when these trucks were being sold out of dealerships, it’s really been a headache for 2nd and 3rd owners.
I dug up two forums in particular and will quote/link them here. They’re from like 2005 and the pictures are still up to my amazement.
this is sludge
pull your valve covers off and see if something like this is layin on the heads, if so youll be better off pullin the motor out, this is sort of a common issue.
Link to forum:
I am trying to remove my oil pan on a 5.2 V8 durango. Do i have to lift the engine, remove the axel, or any thing of that nature. Or is there enough room that i can just remove it. Im looking too see if the filter is sludged because i hear lower engine knocking and i feel that the pressure might...
www.dakota-durango.com
So in conclusion, the users
@addicted2blue00 and
@TurboBlew have two fairly decent “write-ups” on their process of removing sludge. (Will edit and link)
This is my amalgamation of their processes
- Suck up as much as you can with Shop-Vac and plastic scraper. Try not to drop any in the cam bores
- Soak stubborn sludge with kerosene for a couple hours
- Get it clean. Like clean, clean. Repeat kerosene soak if need be.
- Be sure to clean top of lifters so the lifter keepers will return to place.
- Clean intake manifold with kerosene or whatever. Just get it clean and remember to degrease gasket surface with acetone.
- Replace Gaskets and Re-Install Top End
- Flush Engine oil and replace w/ cheap filter
Here’s the scienc-y part. Both previous guys I mentioned, recommended an mix of 80 parts oil to 20 parts kerosene, “flush mixture”. If you’re doing this process first hand you probably already noticed how the kerosene breaks down the solid oil sludge into a sort of fine oily powder. Kerosene is good at this and I was concerned at first, of it clogging the pickup tube but after some deliberation and more beer, I’m pretty sure ~50 PSI of oil pressure will break down the particles, further returning it to oil.
They also recommended to remove the oil pressure sensor (back of block, next to distributor) and blow some compresses air down the hole to further break up any chunks in the oil pump pickup screen. This is a very good idea if you think of it before throwing the keg back on.
The steps for this process is simple.
- Add flush mixture
- Start engine
- DO NOT PUT IN DRIVE OR REVERSE. The engine cannot be under load
- Let heat soak for ~10 mins
- Drain oil
- Replace filter (optional but best results)
Repeat until hearts desire. 3 flushes recommended but 1000 mile changes suffice. You may notice increased valve train noise and lower oil pressure during this process. This is to be expected as kerosene is thin. At the time of this process I have chosen 2.5 gal Rotella T4 synthetic blend 15w-40 as a flusher. Will be switching to full synthetic in 3000 miles.
Hope this helps all who view. Will take pictures of process and detail explanation further upon request. Also will be updating as truck did have intermittent oil pressure loss but I think it was a sender.
