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post #1 of Old 05-10-2009, 08:25 PM Thread Starter
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Stock wiring into a aftermarket wiring harness

well short and simple the stock wire colors are different from the aftermarket wiring colors. i've been boggling my head and i cant figure it out. So what ive been doing is a turkey shoot. not everything is all hooked up yet, but i dont want to fuck something up badly or have to re-wire everything 50 different times.

and from the stock unit theres a black connector that says AMP on it that tagged on to the back of the radio i was wondering if that was the ground or not.

im using a Pioneer 4700MP harness.

i could really use the help and i would appreciate it.

if someone has a guide from what wire goes from the truck wires into the wiring harness that would be great.

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Get a wiring harness adaptor that plugs into the factory stereo harness. The loose wires coming off of that are color matched to the ones that came with the new headunit. Just splice them together, its that simple.

When you say theirs a wire thats marked AMP on the factory radio, does it have the premium Infinity stereo system?
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no it doesnt. that im aware of. its only the 4 speaker system.

and i didnt know i had all those. and i cut those plugs off. I have to hard wire it now. If i knew there were plugs for that, then i would have bought some. I'l get it to work, just a matter of how long its going to take me pretty much.

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I guess it'd work out, but its much easier to purchase and use a stereo installation adaptor.
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I guess it'd work out, but its much easier to purchase and use a stereo installation adaptor.
No shit. You really fucked that one up dude. Not to mention the fact that the wiring harnesses make installation a ton easier (I soldered my stereo to harness connections and it still only took 40 minutes for the entire install) you also have to deal with a hard wire if you decide to change deck or have any issues in the future. Best advice I can give is take you time and do clean work. You may be able to use some other form of connector in order to make it a little easier to remove or work on in the future if you do a little searching...
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can't knock him too much for not buying the harness. I did the same in when I started installing decks in my vehicles in high school. First time I didn't know, 2nd and 3rd time was because I was cheap and didn't want to spend the extra money on the adapter.

All seriousness though the original poster was looking for help so why not give him some.

Anyways I'm not sure how to help you finding the speaker wires, you'd have to look and see if there are any markings on the factory deck, or maybe someone cast post a pic of the wiring diagram.. another option would be to buy the adapter and attach it to your already cut off factory plugs. this way you won't need to figure anything out. What Year is your rig?


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If he's just looking for speaker wires, pull off the door panel, take out the speaker and take a gander at the wires. Tedious, yes...but effective. Or, once you get the power figured out, turn the radio on and set the balance/fade so you can only hear one speaker at a time and then play the guessing game til you get it right.
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just did a quick google and found this, dunno if it'll help or not.

1999 Dodge Durango Car Radio Wiring Diagram

Car Radio Battery Constant 12v+ Wire: Red/Blue
Car Radio Accessory Switched 12v+ Wire: Red/White
Car Radio Ground Wire: N/A
Car Radio Illumination Wire: Black/Yellow
Car Stereo Dimmer Wire: Orange
Car Stereo Antenna Trigger Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Amp Trigger Wire: Green
Car Stereo Amplifier Location: N/A
Car Audio Front Speakers Size: 6 1/2″
Car Audio Front Speakers Location: Doors
Left Front Speaker Positive Wire (+): Dark Green
Left Front Speaker Negative Wire (-): Brown/Red
Right Front Speaker Positive Wire (+): Brown/Yellow
Right Front Speaker Negative Wire (-): Brown/Light Blue
Car Audio Rear Speakers Size: 6 1/2″
Car Audio Rear Speakers Location: Rear Doors
Left Rear Speaker Positive Wire (+): White
Left Rear Speaker Negative Wire (-): Dark Blue/Red
Right Rear Speaker Positive Wire (+): Brown/White
Right Rear Speaker Negative Wire (-): Brown/Orange
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No shit. You really fucked that one up dude. Not to mention the fact that the wiring harnesses make installation a ton easier (I soldered my stereo to harness connections and it still only took 40 minutes for the entire install) you also have to deal with a hard wire if you decide to change deck or have any issues in the future. Best advice I can give is take you time and do clean work. You may be able to use some other form of connector in order to make it a little easier to remove or work on in the future if you do a little searching...
Might as well learn the hard way while im young a dumb anyway right?
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If he's just looking for speaker wires, pull off the door panel, take out the speaker and take a gander at the wires. Tedious, yes...but effective. Or, once you get the power figured out, turn the radio on and set the balance/fade so you can only hear one speaker at a time and then play the guessing game til you get it right.
The door pannels are different colors than the ones behind the head unit. I added two after market speakers off of the wires going to the stock speaker. Twice as loud in the doors i love it. Yeah thats what my friend reccomended doing, we did that. then realised that the buttons on my deck didnt work (i guess thats what i get from buying something from my cousin) Thanks for your input buddy.
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just did a quick google and found this, dunno if it'll help or not.

1999 Dodge Durango Car Radio Wiring Diagram

Car Radio Battery Constant 12v+ Wire: Red/Blue
Car Radio Accessory Switched 12v+ Wire: Red/White
Car Radio Ground Wire: N/A
Car Radio Illumination Wire: Black/Yellow
Car Stereo Dimmer Wire: Orange
Car Stereo Antenna Trigger Wire: N/A
Car Stereo Amp Trigger Wire: Green
Car Stereo Amplifier Location: N/A
Car Audio Front Speakers Size: 6 1/2″
Car Audio Front Speakers Location: Doors
Left Front Speaker Positive Wire (+): Dark Green
Left Front Speaker Negative Wire (-): Brown/Red
Right Front Speaker Positive Wire (+): Brown/Yellow
Right Front Speaker Negative Wire (-): Brown/Light Blue
Car Audio Rear Speakers Size: 6 1/2″
Car Audio Rear Speakers Location: Rear Doors
Left Rear Speaker Positive Wire (+): White
Left Rear Speaker Negative Wire (-): Dark Blue/Red
Right Rear Speaker Positive Wire (+): Brown/White
Right Rear Speaker Negative Wire (-): Brown/Orange
I appreciate this a ton. Thats really whats gonna help me, its totally going to knock down the time its going to take me now, thanks.
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can't knock him too much for not buying the harness. I did the same in when I started installing decks in my vehicles in high school. First time I didn't know, 2nd and 3rd time was because I was cheap and didn't want to spend the extra money on the adapter.

All seriousness though the original poster was looking for help so why not give him some.

Anyways I'm not sure how to help you finding the speaker wires, you'd have to look and see if there are any markings on the factory deck, or maybe someone cast post a pic of the wiring diagram.. another option would be to buy the adapter and attach it to your already cut off factory plugs. this way you won't need to figure anything out. What Year is your rig?
its a 99. But you sound alot like me. i live in a small town half hour away from any place that sells car audio equipment. So the hard way is normally best for me. so i dont have to drop the ammount of gas (that is now going up) for one thing thats not even worth my time getting, essentially.


thank you guys for your input and the help. Thanks.

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can't knock him too much for not buying the harness. I did the same in when I started installing decks in my vehicles in high school. First time I didn't know, 2nd and 3rd time was because I was cheap and didn't want to spend the extra money on the adapter.

All seriousness though the original poster was looking for help so why not give him some.

Anyways I'm not sure how to help you finding the speaker wires, you'd have to look and see if there are any markings on the factory deck, or maybe someone cast post a pic of the wiring diagram.. another option would be to buy the adapter and attach it to your already cut off factory plugs. this way you won't need to figure anything out. What Year is your rig?
Im not trying to give him a hard time. You live and you learn right? Now he knows for next time...
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Might as well learn the hard way while im young a dumb anyway right?

its a 99. But you sound alot like me. i live in a small town half hour away from any place that sells car audio equipment. So the hard way is normally best for me. so i dont have to drop the ammount of gas (that is now going up) for one thing thats not even worth my time getting, essentially.


thank you guys for your input and the help. Thanks.
For future reference, when you buy any equipment (speakers, deck, box, ampo, etc) at crutchfield you get everything you need to do the install for free. When I did my deck I got the mounting adaptor, the wire harness, the antenna adaptor, and a full set of master sheets for my truck detailing the size and location of each fastener that needs to be removed for any part of the stereo. It really is invaluable and is free to boot. A lot of people don't like to use places like this because they think that they are expensive or whatever, but the items included along with 24 tech support if you need it is great. You can also get some really sweet deals on equipment if you know what you are looking for. Just my two cents for next time. Let us know how it goes.
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Crutchfield is nice, but i bought a set of 5 1/4" speakers and tweeters together for $80 to my door on ebay. On there it would have been $100 a piece for each set. Speakers and tweeters.

ill make sure to let you guys know how this goes.

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Crutchfield is nice, but i bought a set of 5 1/4" speakers and tweeters together for $80 to my door on ebay. On there it would have been $100 a piece for each set. Speakers and tweeters.

ill make sure to let you guys know how this goes.

Thanks again.
Yea that may be on some things, depending on how you do your installs. I go through vehicles like a fat kid in a candy store, so when ever I install things I like to make sure I can remove everything and return it to stock. Also in case of accident and vehicle gets totalled it makes it cleaner to remove everything. When comparing prices I look at the total cost of installation gear and components. Yes Ebay is cheaper by $20 or more on a lot of things but if you factor in the installation gear and the amount of time spent during install. Crutchfield is most of the time cheaper.

For Instance, I just purchased a Head Unit for the wife from crutchfield but it would have been cheaper at BestBuy. Since crutchfield gave me the mount, wiring adapter, antennae adapter for free it was a no brainer.

Basically, Just think about what COULD happen and if you are going to want to ever return the vehicle to stock...


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I guess it'd work out, but its much easier to purchase and use a stereo installation adaptor.
Question where to purchase this adapter
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Crutchfield as stated before has a large selection of them. If you're looking for a brick and mortar that sells them most Best Buys have a good selection, and Walmart sells a few generic ones.
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