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post #1 of 19 Old 11-25-2009, 04:37 PM Thread Starter
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Won't start in 'Park' - starts in 'Neutral'

Ok, so I'm 90 miles from home yesterday when I get in the Dak and it doesn't start. Won't turn over - not even any 'clicking' from the solenoid. Tried jumping it - nothing. Since it was getting late and I was far from home, I figured I'd get it towed to a local shop and get a hotel for the night.

Tried to start it in 'neutral' and it fired right up! WTF? I was able to get it home and this morning the same deal - won't start in 'park' but starts in 'neutral'. Anyone ever heard of this? If the starter was toast, wouldn't it be toast regardless of which gear it was in? I would think if the park/neutral switch went bad, it'd be the same thing: it would be bad regardless of gear.

edit: transmission linkage?



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Ok, so I'm 90 miles from home yesterday when I get in the Dak and it doesn't start. Won't turn over - not even any 'clicking' from the solenoid. Tried jumping it - nothing. Since it was getting late and I was far from home, I figured I'd get it towed to a local shop and get a hotel for the night.

Tried to start it in 'neutral' and it fired right up! WTF? I was able to get it home and this morning the same deal - won't start in 'park' but starts in 'neutral'. Anyone ever heard of this? If the starter was toast, wouldn't it be toast regardless of which gear it was in? I would think if the park/neutral switch went bad, it'd be the same thing: it would be bad regardless of gear.

edit: transmission linkage?

could be the linkage, but sounds more like your park/ neutral switch has gone bad.
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I hope it's just the switch - that would be a nice inexpensive fix. Then again, adjusting the linkage wouldn't be too costly either. Last thing I need to be doing this time a year is buying a starter. I'm stuck at work and won't be able to check anything until later this evening.

If a switch goes bad, would it let the starter fire in one gear and not another? Seems like it would go bad altogether, but then again I've never had one of these crap out on any of my vehicles before so I have no idea what these things act like when they go.

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I hope it's just the switch - that would be a nice inexpensive fix. Then again, adjusting the linkage wouldn't be too costly either. Last thing I need to be doing this time a year is buying a starter. I'm stuck at work and won't be able to check anything until later this evening.

If a switch goes bad, would it let the starter fire in one gear and not another? Seems like it would go bad altogether, but then again I've never had one of these crap out on any of my vehicles before so I have no idea what these things act like when they go.
yeah if it was your starter it would have problems in either park or neutral.
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Not going into park

Ok, so my situation just got a little more fun. Now it's looking like a transmission issue.

Starter and neutral/park switch test ok. Everything appeared normal with the shift linkage as well. What I didn't notice yesterday, but noticed today was that it wasn't going fully into park (which is probably why the starter wouldn't fire up). Sounds like there might be others who this has happened to. Apparently there is a piece or lever that breaks off, not letting it go into park fully?

Was going to drive out of town and visit family tomorrow but now I'm not sure. Is this more of a nuisance or will I fuck up the tranny driving with this broken piece?

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I know there is a recall for the safety interlock in the steering column My truck had it done. Not sure if this is part of your issue or not.
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From what I understand, that is for '01 and '02 models only? I've got a 2000. Maybe I'm wrong?

I thought that recall was for a problem where the vehicle could be shifted 'out' of park while turned off. My problem is that it doesn't want to fully engage into park.

Edit: yep, just read the recall notice. 2001 and 2002 only. Thanks though.

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From what I understand, that is for '01 and '02 models only? I've got a 2000. Maybe I'm wrong?

I thought that recall was for a problem where the vehicle could be shifted 'out' of park while turned off. My problem is that it doesn't want to fully engage into park.

Edit: yep, just read the recall notice. 2001 and 2002 only. Thanks though.
Maybe pull the steering column cover off and have a look at the shift blocker anyways.....you never know.
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Ok, update: Gear indicators on the dash are slightly off. For example, the little orange indicator is actually just left of 'N' when I'm actually in neutral, etc. I know there is an adjustment for this, but I'm guessing I should probably adjust the shift linkage first? Also, I can get the shift lever on the column far enough into park that I can get the key out and the reverse lights turn off, however the truck will still 'drift' like it's not in park. E-brake is necessary to keep it in place.

I'm beginning to think the band anchor hasn't dropped like on other's transmissions. I took it out this morning - 1st, 2nd, and 3rd shifts were all good.

I checked the linkage yesterday - seemed snug and in good order. No play or obvious damage. But today I want to try disconnecting it and making sure the manual shift lever on the tranny is all the way back (in park) per the FSM adjustment directions. But I'm having a bitch of a time trying to release the shift linkage lock (the little plastic thing below the brake booster). The FSM gives no indication how to remove it and I'm starting to feel a little retarded that I can't get it off. Anyone got this little bastard off?

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Ok got that little bugger off. Adjusted the shift linkage per the FSM. Still won't start in park. Took it around the block. All shifts are good. Now after adjusting the shift linkage, the column gear indicators are a full notch off. Indicator in 'N' = drive, indicator in 'R' = neutral, and so on.

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try moving the gear shifter back and forth from park to 1 a few times. usually when that happens to me its just the nuetral safety switch out of alignment.
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Neutral switch ended up being ok. The front band anchor dropped, keeping it from going into park. Front band has some wear, so now I'm looking at a rebuild.

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Did you end up doing a complete rebuild? Or were able to just replace the bands?? My 99 Durango is having the same issue!!
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The front band isn't too bad, but if the rear band is going you might as well do a full rebuild, since you have to tear the whole thing apart to get to it anyway.



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it's the 2nd gear band that out in mine :-/
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