F&B chatter

[blaindsmith]

Welcome to the board! I am sure you will get a lot of guys wanting to get a group buy on those nice throttle bodies.

[Dj Wolf]

Welcome to the forum, I love my 72mm F&B

[TurboBlew]

sweet... Ill be in the market for a 58mm real soon!

[99rtcc]

Hi Bruce and welcome back.Now going on 1 year with the first Six Pack for the 5.9 and loving it.Thanks for stepping in and making this happen.Robert

[SinCity R/T]

Hi Bruce and welcome back.Now going on 1 year with the first Six Pack for the 5.9 and loving it.Thanks for stepping in and making this happen.Robert

I'm assuming Bruce will make a separate thread regarding the 6-pack in the future, but until then...

:needpix:

[hwystar]

I'm assuming Bruce will make a separate thread regarding the 6-pack in the future, but until then...

:needpix:here is the link

http://www.fbthrottlebodies.com/

[SinCity R/T]

here is the link

http://www.fbthrottlebodies.com/

I know what the 6-pack looks like in general and have seen them installed on a handful of trucks over the years (Bruce/Sam/etc.), but I'd like to see Robert's engine bay! :banana2:

[mthandt]

Welcome Bruce and I love my 70mm TB.:woot: Piece of art under the hood.:D

[BKBridges]

Robert,
If I had some pics of your truck, I would have them on my website... I am very glad that the system is happening for you. The tuning of the Mag 6bbl isnt near as easy as the FAST or BS3 systems weve installed. Did SCT get the job done? If you ever need anything re: upgrade (yours was actually a prototype...) please holler! Heres a couple pics of my DARTCC with the 6bbl setup. Finally got a new transmission!! Now I need the ol SCT tuneup.
Bruce

[BKBridges]

Heres a pic of Roberts system before he got it...Id like to see one under the hood though!

[hskrRT]

Hey Bruce. I was an idiot and forgot to put my airhat nut back on after removing the filter over the weekend and I lost it. Was sitting on the wiper cowl while I was driving. Using my stock airhat nut for now, but is there a chance i can get a new billet F&B airhat nut if you have any??

[hskrRT]

Oh, and good to see you finally hook up with Steve on his site. Should increase your traffic a little.

[BKBridges]

heres the pic I hope

[BKBridges]

Brian!
Long time! Hope all is well. Yeah its been kinda stupid not being here. But thats changed! Thanks Steve!
Bruce

[hskrRT]

So about that airhat nut...............

[BKBridges]

Brian,
Yes Ive got em (Lots of em!) Shoot me your addy.
My laptop crashed and burned at the MATS show and my backup files for QB were on it... Im lost right now. No addresses, etc. Anyone out there an expert on data recovery? Ill cut you a swell deal for my .QBB files!
Bruce

[hskrRT]

Sent you a PM.

[TurboBlew]

Robert,
If I had some pics of your truck, I would have them on my website... I am very glad that the system is happening for you. The tuning of the Mag 6bbl isnt near as easy as the FAST or BS3 systems weve installed. Did SCT get the job done? If you ever need anything re: upgrade (yours was actually a prototype...) please holler! Heres a couple pics of my DARTCC with the 6bbl setup. Finally got a new transmission!! Now I need the ol SCT tuneup.
Bruce

Ever do a 6bbl shaker setup?

[BKBridges]

The 6bbl systems put the air intake in the "stock" location for all the old school Mopars, so for them, Shaker is easy. I havnt done a Dakota shaker but Im pretty sure its doable. An offset fiberglass base sized to a Dakota shaker should work. The center TB is pretty close to the stocker location 5.9 wise...
Bruce

[99rtcc]

Robert,
If I had some pics of your truck, I would have them on my website... I am very glad that the system is happening for you. The tuning of the Mag 6bbl isnt near as easy as the FAST or BS3 systems weve installed. Did SCT get the job done? If you ever need anything re: upgrade (yours was actually a prototype...) please holler! Heres a couple pics of my DARTCC with the 6bbl setup. Finally got a new transmission!! Now I need the ol SCT tuneup.
Bruce
Bruce,as soon as i can get some good pics i will send them to you.Marty at KRC hooked me up with the SCT tune and i love it.Went from 220 hp(stock motor with gsm headers) to 265 with the 6-pack and SCT tune.

[ME111]

Welcome back to the forum Bruce. Just thought I'd take this opportunity to let you know I got the 58..many thanks for kicking that out before you left. Can hardly wait for that Ram Ring now to compliment it. Gonna be a trick setup for sure.

[DakotaLivLrg]

Glad to see ya on the site man, I talked to ya at MATS and have the Blue Dak, once I get the funds I will most likely be getting a 52 from ya !

[GoFastGray]

Glad to see ya on the site man, I talked to ya at MATS and have the Blue Dak, once I get the funds I will most likely be getting a 52 from ya !

What do you have now??

[DakotaLivLrg]

What do you have now??

stock:rant::rant::rant:

[Yort]

Love my 58mm TB. Now if we could get some of those valve covers made again :bump:


Troy

[WeezyRT]

Brian,
Yes Ive got em (Lots of em!) Shoot me your addy.
My laptop crashed and burned at the MATS show and my backup files for QB were on it... Im lost right now. No addresses, etc. Anyone out there an expert on data recovery? Ill cut you a swell deal for my .QBB files!
Bruce

I actually need one of those air hat nuts as well. Mine didnt come with one when I got it.

[GoFastGray]

I actually need one of those air hat nuts as well. Mine didnt come with one when I got it.

I have an extra that came with my 58mm. Won't fit my new extreme performance air hat :rant:

[BKBridges]

Thats a good topic:
Air hats vs. Airhat nut design. We havnt looked at airhats for a loong time. What should the nut look like to fir the Extreme perf hat? Any other hats that the nut doesnt fit with? We can modify the design (since its been the same since 99...) for non-stock apps.
Brue

[WeezyRT]

I have an extra that came with my 58mm. Won't fit my new extreme performance air hat :rant:

Good call Kev. Ill be using the same air hat.

Hmm...

[GoFastGray]

Thats a good topic:
Air hats vs. Airhat nut design. We havnt looked at airhats for a loong time. What should the nut look like to fir the Extreme perf hat? Any other hats that the nut doesnt fit with? We can modify the design (since its been the same since 99...) for non-stock apps.
Brue

If you were a little closer I could hand it to you. Mailing it wouldn't be so bad.

How long would you need it for to mock one up? I can take some pics for you as well next t the nut so you have an idea :onethumb:

[RD03RT]

Bruce,
Good to hear from you, Missed you at MATS, but I'll be in touch.
Dennis

[BKBridges]

Dennis,
Thought I saw your truck there. It was a fun show but the wind was rough on Sunday. Were going to the Spring Fling next weekend...
See you there?
Bruce

[BKBridges]

If you could send me a picture I can take a look and see if Ill need the physical unit to make the nuts. I think I know what needs to be done, but a picture would help a lot!
Bruce

[GoFastGray]

If you could send me a picture I can take a look and see if Ill need the physical unit to make the nuts. I think I know what needs to be done, but a picture would help a lot!
Bruce

Ill take some pictures for ya. Some next to the airhat nut too and give dimensions.

[Grapejuice1998]

Howdy Bruce!
I would love to run one of those 6 pack setups. Have you ever set one up for nitrous?

[Bad_banana]

Hey bruce! Big thanks for sending out my 58mm last christmas!! I know you guys were closed for the holidays, but you still managed to send out my TB for me!!

[RD03RT]

[QUOTE=BKBridges;2033124]Dennis,
Thought I saw your truck there. It was a fun show but the wind was rough on Sunday. Were going to the Spring Fling next weekend...
See you there?
Bruce

Definitely fun on Sunday. Had to adjust my ET by checking the flags on the tower. I won't make it to the Fling on Sat. (retirement party for a good friend), but I may make it on Sun.

[morsedak07]

Brian,
Yes Ive got em (Lots of em!) Shoot me your addy.
My laptop crashed and burned at the MATS show and my backup files for QB were on it... Im lost right now. No addresses, etc. Anyone out there an expert on data recovery? Ill cut you a swell deal for my .QBB files!
Bruce

Bruce
You still need some help on getting your lost files back from your laptop? I'm pretty good at computers if you need some help?

PM me if you need some help (sorry for the late delay)
Chris

[geo2slow4u]

Robert,
If I had some pics of your truck, I would have them on my website... I am very glad that the system is happening for you. The tuning of the Mag 6bbl isnt near as easy as the FAST or BS3 systems weve installed. Did SCT get the job done? If you ever need anything re: upgrade (yours was actually a prototype...) please holler! Heres a couple pics of my DARTCC with the 6bbl setup. Finally got a new transmission!! Now I need the ol SCT tuneup.
Bruce


Send me those valve covers now. I payed for them years ago. Now I finally found them. :waiting::D

[got_torque]

Does anyone else have a problem with your throttle body sticking at around 1000-1200 rpms when slowing to a stop? My 52mm does it every few days, when it sticks, it does it a few times that day. Ive pulled it apart a couple times and cleaned it, lubed it, and cleaned the edges of the blades, and didnt change it any. Ive tried adjusting the idle screw, and it works for about 2 weeks or so. Anyone figure out how to fix it if so?

[hskrRT]

When you say you've pulled it apart, what do you mean?? And what are you using the "lube" it??

[geo2slow4u]

I think he uses anti seize on the blade shaft. When he puts them together. You could try that.

[hskrRT]

Yep. That's what he uses and recommend for lubricating the shaft.

[BKBridges]

Does anyone else have a problem with your throttle body sticking at around 1000-1200 rpms when slowing to a stop? My 52mm does it every few days, when it sticks, it does it a few times that day. Ive pulled it apart a couple times and cleaned it, lubed it, and cleaned the edges of the blades, and didnt change it any. Ive tried adjusting the idle screw, and it works for about 2 weeks or so. Anyone figure out how to fix it if so?

You can always send it back to F&B for a tuneup!

Normally a "sticky" idle is caused by either a bad IAC or excessive TPS voltage. The "idle" screw should be set for nominal TPS voltage (.54-.6) and then locked down. If there is still a sticky throttle at idle, the IAC may be holding up, especially if the PCM has been re-flashed for a bigger cam, which ususally holds the IAC open longer as you decellerate to prevent low rpm stalling. Last case would be the throttlebody itself having an issue, usually galling between aluminum and stainless steel or a loose linkage.

IMO id send it back to F&B for a tuneup!

Bruce

[got_torque]

You can always send it back to F&B for a tuneup!

Normally a "sticky" idle is caused by either a bad IAC or excessive TPS voltage. The "idle" screw should be set for nominal TPS voltage (.54-.6) and then locked down. If there is still a sticky throttle at idle, the IAC may be holding up, especially if the PCM has been re-flashed for a bigger cam, which ususally holds the IAC open longer as you decellerate to prevent low rpm stalling. Last case would be the throttlebody itself having an issue, usually galling between aluminum and stainless steel or a loose linkage.

IMO id send it back to F&B for a tuneup!

Bruce

Its not the IAC or the TPS. Ive checked them on the drb at work and cleaned IAC.
It started acting up when I switched from the fastman to the f&b throttle body. I do have a flash for a bigger cam, but this never happened with the other throttle body.....
I put anti seize on the shaft also.

How much does the "tune-up" run?

[hskrRT]

Another thing I just remembered. I've heard of several people having problems with the blades sticking if the TPS sensor was too tight. There is supposed to be a gasket on the sensor, but some don't have this. If you tighten the TPS down to tight it will causing binding and hold the throttle open.

[got_torque]

Another thing I just remembered. I've heard of several people having problems with the blades sticking if the TPS sensor was too tight. There is supposed to be a gasket on the sensor, but some don't have this. If you tighten the TPS down to tight it will causing binding and hold the throttle open.

I checked that too, but didnt change. The only thing thats changed the sticking was changing the idle screw to bring the tps voltage down....but that only works for a few weeks then I gotta do it again.

[BKBridges]

Tune ups are FOC. You need to include a check for return shipping (12.00)...Thats it.
Bruce

[got_torque]

Just wondering, what does the tune up do that i havent done?

[BKBridges]

Not sure...
We will check it out as it stands, note any issues that we find, disassemble it and rebuild it with its original parts if they are still servicable. We will check all the tolerances and replace any part that is suspect, chase the threads in the body, etc. Theres a few things we look for as we go through the disassembly based on the symptom that brought it back to us.
Bruce

[got_torque]

where do i ship it to and how long will it take you think?

[BKBridges]

where do i ship it to and how long will it take you think?

F&B Performance, 766 Ocean Crest Rd
Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007.
It takes us about 2 days to do the turnaround so expect a week with shipping unless you need it sooner. If you do, add another 14.00 for Fed Ex saver shipping...
Bruce

[GoFastGray]

Ever check out the Pm with extreme air hat, bruce :huh:
No rush, just curious what you think about a nut for it.

[got_torque]

Well I just did some more adjusting on it. It sticks at any tps voltage when coming back to idle. If you just barely touch the linkage it unsticks, BARELY touch it. There just seems to be too much play in the blades or shaft where it connects to the linkage. :huh: I guess I'll have to drive around with a stock one for the next 2 weeks.

[got_torque]

I just took the throttle body off to send out and noticed the blades are marked. Which way do the marks go? On top or bottom? And facing forwards or backwards?

[BKBridges]

I just took the throttle body off to send out and noticed the blades are marked. Which way do the marks go? On top or bottom? And facing forwards or backwards?

The marks are on the bottom leading surface of the blade.
With the TB sitting on its top and the linkage to your left, the blades drop in with the marks furthest away from you facing upwards...If you put em in wrong, they wont fit properly!

Bruce

[BKBridges]

Ever check out the Pm with extreme air hat, bruce :huh:
No rush, just curious what you think about a nut for it.

Yes! I havnt had a chance to do anything though... Give me a week or so (youve heard that before...)
Bruce

[got_torque]

Well I took it back apart, put the blades in correctly, and now its worse.....

Just mailed it out ups. Made out the check to F&B.

[BKBridges]

Well I took it back apart, put the blades in correctly, and now its worse.....

Just mailed it out ups. Made out the check to F&B.

Yes, that would do it! Well run it on our truck before we send it back to you to make sure all is good...
Bruce

[got_torque]

did you get my pm bruce?

[BKBridges]

Got the PM.. Ive been busy putting together our new Flathead system... Works on any Rochester carb'd set-up...no flathead Dakotas out there??
Bruce

[got_torque]

I just pmed you again. Thanks.

[got_torque]

Thanks for fixing the throttle body for me. It seems to work fine, so far!! How much would you charge me for a hardware kit for it? I need the bolts that go throught the map sensor mostly, but wouldnt mind having a whole extra set.....

[got_torque]

How much would you charge me for a hardware kit for it? I need the bolts that go throught the map sensor mostly, but wouldnt mind having a whole extra set.....

See if I can get one this time?