duranged new buildup

[studlybilly]

For all who dont know, I cut everything out front under duranged for its new buildup. The new buildup consists of 2 front 2.5 ton rockwells front and rear. I'm running 56" chevy lift springs in the rear and 52"ers in the front. Its getting full orbital hydraulic front and joystick rear controlled steering. It will end up with 53" michelin tires and 20x10.5 rims. The final date to be driving it seems to be set near the end of july give or take.

Front spring mount:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1422568-duranged1.JPG
Another shot (I seriously musta went through 4lbs of rods and god knows how much metal lol):
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1422569-duranged2.JPG
here you can see how far back the wheelbase was pushed:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1422570-duranged4.JPG
The front shackle mount, I put a piece of DOM tubing through the frame and use polyurethane bushings:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1422571-duranged3.JPG
Side shot of front susp. setup to show front wheelbase pushed:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1422572-duranged5.JPG
Front shot of S/R mount, the subframe design I used was tight only because I tried to keep the stock bumper with minimal trimming, it seems now I'm going to have to fab up a bumper:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1422573-duranged6.JPG


Its almost sitting at its final ride heigth, but it will need to be jacked up another 6-7"s to get the tires on. It sucks because I have a 30x50' shop that the sumbich cant fit in so I'm stuck to work outside.

[JethroStyles]

Is it going to be able to tuck 53"s? Hahaha

That's going to be BADASS when it'd done... You going to put a cummins in it next, so you can actually SPIN those 53s? That's going to be WICKED! What kinda 20's you going to be runnin?

[studlybilly]

The way things are looking from the top of the tire to the fender I will have 14"s. The rims I ordered from john at stazworks.com, you cant use any ordinary rim because of the 6x8.75 bolt pattern of the rockwell and the need for a HD rim that can hold the heavy a$$ tires.

http://www.stazworks.com/images/w4.gif

[VegasOutkast]

speechless :mullet:

[00RangoRida]

holy shit i love it keep us posted.

[05Dakota]

Damn,...... :bow: :bow: :bow:

[GOON'S D]

And he is at it again! :drool:

[Bigguy18LSU77]

soo... I'm guessing you're building the August TOM huh bud? lol. What happened to all of you old stuff?

[studlybilly]

soo... I'm guessing you're building the August TOM huh bud? lol. What happened to all of you old stuff?

it sold very fast, only thing I have left now is a 9.25 rear end, durango rear leaf springs with the 2.5 AAL's, the front 4" lift K5 springs. I also still have my 38.5 SX's on the black rockcrawler rims but thats ford lug pattern.

[studlybilly]

Is it going to be able to tuck 53"s? Hahaha

You going to put a cummins in it next, so you can actually SPIN those 53s?


I'm currently researching a 4bt cummins motor. They easily make 200hp/400 ft.lbs. and to me that would be adequate given the gearing its going to have.

[Ben]

Dude keep us posted on the build up, my God your truck is going to be sick as hell. :biggthump

[1bdazzdak]

I cant wait to see that sucker when its finished. Its gonna be awesome.

[studlybilly]

Got some more work done:

You can see how wide it'll end up being, the inside of the tire will ride about 1" inside the fender (I wish bushwackers made some 6" widers for my truck):
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1424663-reo4.JPG
With the help of a friend I got the front chunk in:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1424664-reo5.JPG
Clocked rear case (to set it more center), this sumbich I actually wrestled in by myself and took me about an hour and a half lol:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1424665-reo6.JPG

[BLACK01RTCC]

Thats goin to be one big sombitch :clap2:
U are using military duce and a half axles??

[chester_peabody]

man, that thing is crazy. I know what you're saying about the garage though. I have a 30x40 so full of projects that I have to do all the real work in the driveway.

[Bigguy18LSU77]

Got some more work done:

You can see how wide it'll end up being, the inside of the tire will ride about 1" inside the fender (I wish bushwackers made some 6" widers for my truck):


I bet that if you talk to some of the guys doing Fiberglass work, they might be able to fab up a set a of Fender flares to cover your tires.. or you could do like that truck on Truckin TV and just put a peice of plexiglass around the tires (like a makes shift fender flare/mud gaurd) so you can drive it on the road and take them off when off roading.

[studlybilly]

Thats goin to be one big sombitch :clap2:
U are using military duce and a half axles??

yes those are 2 front 2.5 ton rockwell axles.

[studlybilly]

I bet that if you talk to some of the guys doing Fiberglass work, they might be able to fab up a set a of Fender flares to cover your tires.. or you could do like that truck on Truckin TV and just put a peice of plexiglass around the tires (like a makes shift fender flare/mud gaurd) so you can drive it on the road and take them off when off roading.

I know they have pre runner fender flares but that doesnt resolve the rear.

[Bigguy18LSU77]

You can just make some giant mud flaps for the rear and have them removable so you can take them off and go mud riding. lol. Where there's a will, there's a way.

[studlybilly]

You can just make some giant mud flaps for the rear and have them removable so you can take them off and go mud riding. lol. Where there's a will, there's a way.

Well we dont "have" to cover our tires, I just wanted to get a 6" extended bushwacker flare but they havent made any for dak's/rango's. Oh well, I'll be wide stepping it.

[MoparDrvn]

get some bajha front fenders!!!

[ballz3]

as said before...i can't wait for the final pic!

nice work, man!

[studlybilly]

Went and got my tires this weekend thats sitting next to a 38:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1437616-Tires2.JPG
Just sitting next to the truck (take note I have to jack the truck up an easy 6 "s just to get the tires bolted on):
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1437617-Tires5.JPG
Front rotor I'm using, joker is 15-3/8" in diameter and 1.50" thick:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1437618-Frontrotor.JPG
Another shot:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1437619-Frontrotor2.JPG

more to come, my rims are "sposed" to be done next friday...

[ballz3]

simply insane! :clap2:

[DurangoDudeNJ]

HOLY CRAP!!! :bow: :clap2: :mullet:

[missMyLS1]

dayum i didnt think u were serious at first!

thats like Baby Foot.

[Cgballin2002]

That thing is going to be sweet when it is finished. :clap2:

[GOON'S D]

Now that is amazing!

[P Y E]

Wow, very very nice. Where are you from? If you are into that nose-bleed lift, you should come visit south texas some time, you will love it.

Also, I'm pretty sure that will be illegal, correct? Friend of mines 96' Ram is illegal. It hides in the trees, lol.

[Ace]

ur f-ing crazy lol cant wait to see it when its done

[Five9Dak]

You're my hero, that thing is gonna be sick.

[00RangoRida]

hell yea dude, it's gonna be so sick to see when it's all done, now your really gonna need something to turn those meats. :drool: :mullet:

[Venge97RI]

damn dude.. that thing is crazy :bow: :clap2:

[studlybilly]

Wow, very very nice. Where are you from? If you are into that nose-bleed lift, you should come visit south texas some time, you will love it.

Also, I'm pretty sure that will be illegal, correct? Friend of mines 96' Ram is illegal. It hides in the trees, lol.

Believe it or not the tires are DOT approved LOL. The bumper height will be to much yes. After searching for the DOT stamping we noticed the tires are radials and rated at 150 MPH! I just thought that was fawking nuts. I do intend to travel with it as far as venturing into texas area..we'll just have to see. If you want to get all technical, I'll have a rear driveline brake (illegal), full hydraulic steering (illegal), rear steering capability (illegal), and of course a bumper than could take the cops head off (sposed to be 28"s in its weight class). The way things look, to give me a fighting chance I'll have to receive my CDL drivers liscense (this helps cover the full hydraulic steering).

[studlybilly]

hell yea dude, it's gonna be so sick to see when it's all done, now your really gonna need something to turn those meats. :drool: :mullet:

Actually, the reo's come with a 6.72 gear. I plan to see how the gearing helps things wrap up. If I'm happy or close to happy I'll consider some sort of forced induction to give the 318 a little umph, if I'm entirely not happy I've been researching a 4bt cummins diesel swap for some time now.

[studlybilly]

Thanks everyone for the compliments, its just a steady work in progress. The way things look with the wheelbase stretched and its final ride heigth it will have the capability to fully stretch its legs (flex) for the most part. Future mods will of course possibly have to deal with the powertrain. However, I'm researching doing a full adjustable suspension cramming log splitter rams with air, be kinda need to adjust firmness and setup a drop style suspension using 4 links front and rear. Not to mention fun to hit 3 wheel at a redlight and freak a ricer or 2 out. :biggthump Time will tell, I first need to finish it and see how happy I am with its current setup, then go from there.

[RooKnute]

However, I'm researching doing a full adjustable suspension cramming log splitter rams with air, be kinda need to adjust firmness and setup a drop style suspension using 4 links front and rear. Not to mention fun to hit 3 wheel at a redlight and freak a ricer or 2 out. :biggthump Time will tell, I first need to finish it and see how happy I am with its current setup, then go from there.

Now that would be sweet man!!

Can't want to see more work to it!!!

[Alex]

Honestly, that's an amazing work of art, and it's going to be awesome, but if i were a cop and i saw you driving around i would pull you over everytime, just for the fact that your front bumber would crash right through the windshield and smash them in the face, i just hope you don't hit some poor civic, or he runs into you, cause i can see some seroius legal issues following that.

On the other i think it's sick and i'd love to see it actually do some off roadin

[studlybilly]

wow guys havent updated in a while sorry:

Went and got my tires thats sitting next to a 38:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1437616-Tires2.JPG
Just sitting next to the truck (take note I have to jack the truck up an easy 6 "s just to get the tires bolted on):
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1437617-Tires5.JPG
Front rotor I'm using, joker is 15-3/8" in diameter and 1.50" thick:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1437618-Frontrotor.JPG
Another shot:
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1437619-Frontrotor2.JPG

[studlybilly]

Got my stazworks double beadlock rims in! There twanky tree's!! (23" rims lol)

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1450513-Rim1.JPG
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1450514-Rim2.JPG
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1450515-Rim3.JPG
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1450516-Rim4.JPG

The rims are 2 halves, they bolt together and a rubber insert ("beadlock") forces the sidewalls to the rim lip.

[therumblefish]

Nice... I can't wait to see it when it's all put together!

[studlybilly]

Nice... I can't wait to see it when it's all put together!

Dont worry I cant either :biggthump This weekend we will be mounting the tires. :mullet:

[RooKnute]

Cant wait for monday!!!!! lol :biggthump

[DurangoDudeNJ]

Again....... HOLY CRAP!!! :bow: :drool: :clap2: :bow: :drool: :clap2: :mullet:

[chester_peabody]

:biggthump that's pretty crazy there...what's the diametere of the rotors you're using? With a hub mount setup will you have enough stopping power?? I thought most guys used the pinion mount setup for the mechanical advantage so you wouldn't have the heat buildup and consequent fading problems related to stopping tires that big (lots of unsprung weight). More power to ya if you can pull this off and get it to stop somewhere near stock distances. So far no ones had the balls to engineer a hub mount set so keep up the r and d on that

[DAKSPORT1PA]

I'm dying to see this thing done. :drool:

[00RangoRida]

i love you man, i really do, lol. i can't wait to see the end results. :mullet:

[99durango318]

Dude....Ur insane and badass!! ur my Hero! :clap2: :drool: :clap2: :drool: :clap2: :mullet:

[studlybilly]

:biggthump that's pretty crazy there...what's the diametere of the rotors you're using?

There 15-3/8"s, 1.50" thick

With a hub mount setup will you have enough stopping power??

I'm banking on it, I have F550 calipers for the front and I'm using a pinion brake on the rear proportioned down.

I thought most guys used the pinion mount setup for the mechanical advantage so you wouldn't have the heat buildup and consequent fading problems related to stopping tires that big (lots of unsprung weight).

Actually your theory is backwards. Pinion brakes are more subtle to extreme heat and brake fade. Also, the demise of the setup is that if you broke an axleshaft or anything in the axle...your not going to stop. The pinion brake spins extremely fast so components wear much faster and overheating is an occuring problem. However, pinion brakes can lock up a 53 and throw you through the windshield. Even if you just ran one pinion brake on the rear you'd damn near go through the windshield. The hub brake setup spins at a muuuuuuuuuuch slower rate (especially with 53" tires) as oppossed to the pinion. I chose the pinion brake on the rear for its simplicity and I plan to have success with it proportioned down (like to 90% front, 10% rear and let the gearing of the rear balance the ratio out).

More power to ya if you can pull this off and get it to stop somewhere near stock distances. So far no ones had the balls to engineer a hub mount set so keep up the r and d on that

Ehh, not true. There is about 4 or 5 hub brake kits on the market...problem is there all 1000 or more. I found a rotor that we can use for 96 bucks a piece (one shown). Saved some people money so far.


http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1439086-rotormounted1.JPG

[studlybilly]

Thanks everybody, between my business and school I dont have much time, but I'm still chuggin'. Happy building and trailing. :mullet:

[KREWZER]

just one question, what kind of fender flares are u lookin at for this? :jester:

[Ben]

Wow your truck is going to be bigger than i thought. YOu truck reminds me of this F250 that a dude i know is building. He had the same tires, but he used 20' inch Micky Classics and his stock axles. He built all the lift and the truck is taller than his house. Keep up the good work and keep us posted.

[studlybilly]

Took a few pics mounted, kinda crappy but I will get around to taking some during the day. We also need to clean/touchup the rims a little. Hard to tell by the pics but the inner lip of the rim that shows (by about 1/8 all around the opening) is painted to match the truck. :rockon02

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1452791-mounted1.JPG
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1452792-Mounted2.JPG

[studlybilly]

As promised here's a couple more, got to dark to take anymore pics:
There's only 3 lbs of air in this tire :D
http://myspace-931.vo.llnwd.net/00242/13/94/242904931_l.jpg
25 lbs of air in this one:
http://myspace-199.vo.llnwd.net/00242/99/12/242942199_l.jpg

[jmac2000dge]

Lookin good so far :biggthump Is it just me, or does the rear tire not center up with the fender?

[Stell]

He stretched the wheelbase to acomidate the tires.

[JethroStyles]

Uhhh, unless there's alot of fender hacking in the near future, or ALOT more lift, I don't see how that's going to work at all. Looks odd with the axle located that far back, and there is NO WHERE it could flex at ALL as is... WTF? (Still looks MEAN!)

[jmac2000dge]

yeah to me, the rear axle looks a bit OFF, with being so far pushed back. just my .02 worth.

[studlybilly]

He stretched the wheelbase to acomidate the tires.

LOL (I've gotten a kick out of the replies) somebody actually knows what there talking about, the wheelbase was stretched to acccomodate the tire and 4 wheel steer. Anybody who passed high school physics should realize is a 53" tire is going to deceive a 14" gap (make it appear small). The leaf spring used on the rear will compress 10"s before the overload leaf kicks in and jumps the spring rate to 500 (Downtravel well I'll take as much as it can give). I wanted this truck built on a lower platform, not a "Hey jimbo hand me them there sack'o'washers and lets jack'r up higher than the house", $hit like that just looks unplanned and to me ridiculous. I like it when the truck has juuuuust enough lift to stuff the tire and thats it, anymore is un-needed and showboat quality.

[JethroStyles]

Anybody who passed high school physics should realize is a 53" tire is going to deceive a 14" gap (make it appear small). The leaf spring used on the rear will compress 10"s before the overload leaf kicks in and jumps the spring rate to 500 (Downtravel well I'll take as much as it can give).

I fail to see what physics has to do with ANYTHING here, if you are talking about deception, that's a visual trick, no physics.
http://myspace-931.vo.llnwd.net/00242/13/94/242904931_l.jpg
In this picture, I do not see 10" of upward travel possible, it looks like body is resting on the tire! That's what I was questioning! Are you going to hack up the back to make the wheel look centered or No? Just a question, not jumpin yer shit man! :sorry: if it came off that way!

[JethroStyles]

Just seems to me it'd need to be more like this to have any flex...
https://home.comcast.net/~jethrostyles/Rango1.jpg
Am I totally crazy and or missing somthing? I just don't see how it sits how it can have ANY upward travel...

[studlybilly]

I fail to see what physics has to do with ANYTHING here, if you are talking about deception, that's a visual trick, no physics.


Because anybody who can pass high school physics can clearly chew gum and walk at the same time, and understand that 53"s of tire needs to clear a door jam being there would be NO possible way to trim that area in the first place (there might be 2"s of trim area there maybe). During full steer lock and flex it would have probably tried to tear my door off no doubt. Reasoning 2 is because of such an increase in tire I could utilize a further reach in wheelbase without sacrificing center of axis heigth and gain Approach/departure angle. The shackle does pivot causing the tire to travel towards it, but nowhere near the distance you show in your chopped picture. I think your getting mixed up with the rear bumper which will be trimmed more, we trimmed it enough to mount the tires for now.

[studlybilly]

Originally posted by studlybilly


Got my front wheel brake setup DONE! and all 4 tires on the truck. Man it was awesome seeing my monster actually come back to life. We kind of turned the tires to give the 4 wheel steer effect, but didnt turn them all the way. I'm stoked, and even more I'm very happy with the brake setup. If anybody needs any help or anything give me a shout and I'll be happy to share the knowledge I've gained from doing it.

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1457309-DurangedTires.JPG
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1457311-DurangedTires2.JPG
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1457312-DurangedTires3.JPG
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1457313-DurangedTires4.JPG
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1457314-DurangedTires5.JPG
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1457315-DurangedBrake.JPG
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1457316-DurangedBrake2.JPG

[WeezyRT]

dude that shit is...well, its amazing lol great job :biggthump

[DurangoDudeNJ]

:clap2: :mullet: :bow: :biggthump

[Five9Dak]

Once that beast is done there are a few things you should do and video tape. Take it to a drive through, insist u cant get out. Take it to jiffy lube for an oil change, see if they bust out a ladder. Take it to pep boys for a tire rotation, see what they come up with (make sure to get a quote over the phone for a "98 durango, and make them stick to their price). Im sure you can think of more.

[low4c]

teeeheeee, im sorry seeing that durango, still gives me the chilly's :yourock:

[lilguido1]

Once that beast is done there are a few things you should do and video tape. Take it to a drive through, insist u cant get out. Take it to jiffy lube for an oil change, see if they bust out a ladder. Take it to pep boys for a tire rotation, see what they come up with (make sure to get a quote over the phone for a "98 durango, and make them stick to their price). Im sure you can think of more.


You are just devious!

Looking good - you definitely need to keep this thread updated

[Bigguy18LSU77]

soo..... when are you getting a crane and putting a Cummins Turbo Diesel in that beast? ;)

[MagnumDak]

ITS GRAVE DIGGER :mullet:

[studlybilly]

soo..... when are you getting a crane and putting a Cummins Turbo Diesel in that beast? ;)

Eh were now debating on whether to do it or not, the gearing is nuckin futs in this thing. I'm going to try the 318's torque out and if I dont like it I will simply go to a 4bt cummins.

[WeezyRT]

alright so im super curious...and updates? whats up with the beast now a'days?? :mullet:

[lilRed318]

Dude you need to get ahold of Extreme 4x4 with that Durango....and blow there minds!!!! :drool: :mullet: :banana2:

[Bigguy18LSU77]

UPDATE! Did you get it running for christmas or get a cummins? Come on dude! We know you're still working on it.

[Mr.N]

Originally posted by studlybilly Got my front wheel brake setup DONE! and all 4 tires on the truck.
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1457316-DurangedBrake2.JPG
SO what are the rotors off?

So, no U-bolts? Just weld the leaf spring on the axle? :jester:

[Sicminds0088]

noooo!!! most of the pictures are :redx: :redx: :redx: :redx: :redx:

[studlybilly]

SO what are the rotors off?

After some hellacious hunting I found those rotors off a 1994 Ford Bus chassis B700 (6 lug)

So, no U-bolts? Just weld the leaf spring on the axle? :jester:

at that current time no, but I did of course put 5/8's u bolts on.

[studlybilly]

UPDATE! Did you get it running for christmas or get a cummins? Come on dude! We know you're still working on it.

Well as of February 25th it took its first debut. Actually I finished it the night before so I could drive it to the monster truck jam. Still plenty left to do on it. At this rate I drive it everyday. Its not my only source of transportation, but I just cant help myself. The ride is extremely well and thus far I've taken it up to 80 mph. Steering is a dream, I will never build another lifted truck without full hydraulic hands down. The power is there, but a wee bit more gearing would help to suffice the added weight. It moves, but it also lets you know that it has a robust 3000lbs of unsprung weight. The stopping is incredible, I've managed to surprize a few people at unexpected yellow/red lights. In its current form I feel a diesel would be optimal especially watching the RPMs that the truck is at. I'm still banking on the 4bt cummins or even possibly a Isuzu 4BD1, either or could give me up to 30+mpg. I havent gotten the time to finish up the little things to it. I did take it out on the dunes and manage to break my rear spool (or possibly an axleshaft) and my rear trac bar mounts. Its been a blast driving it so far, I still need to build my front d'shaft though. My current plans are to: panhard and track bar the hell out of the rear, put some bigger springs out back to ditch the lift blocks, run helper bags out back, do a diesel conversion and use the truck to tow the other samurai I'm taking on as a project.

[studlybilly]

noooo!!! most of the pictures are :redx: :redx: :redx: :redx: :redx:

Sorry about that, the server host that I use was going through some trouble (for a while actually). I was afraid I lost everything there.

[Mr.N]

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1439086-rotormounted1.JPG SO what are the rotors off?
After some hellacious hunting I found those rotors off a 1994 Ford Bus chassis B700 (6 lug)

Thanks.... :biggthump

[Yellar99R/T]

THATS A HUGE BITCH !!! I would love to see some pics of that Durango With the 23's pulling a 3 wheel at a stop light ! That would be absoutely SICK ! Much Props ! THE TRUCK LOOKS AMAZING ! I would love to see some of those video clips that the other guy was talking about going thru a restaurant drive thru, Pep boys for a tire rotation, and Jiffy lube for a oil change (That would be hilarious). I go out the the Mud Boggs every few weekends a few towns over from me and have seen some very interesting setups but that one is truly unique and amazing ! Keep up the good work !!!! :bow: :mullet: :clap2: :bow:

[darkstarsk8res]

umm...hmm, well yep, my pantys are officially soaked :bow: :bow:

[studlybilly]

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1439086-rotormounted1.JPG
Thanks.... :biggthump

If you are in the position of using these rotors on a reo you need to contact me...a little more involved than just bolt and go. :biggthump

[studlybilly]

THATS A HUGE BITCH !!! I would love to see some pics of that Durango With the 23's pulling a 3 wheel at a stop light ! That would be absoutely SICK ! Much Props ! THE TRUCK LOOKS AMAZING ! I would love to see some of those video clips that the other guy was talking about going thru a restaurant drive thru, Pep boys for a tire rotation, and Jiffy lube for a oil change (That would be hilarious). I go out the the Mud Boggs every few weekends a few towns over from me and have seen some very interesting setups but that one is truly unique and amazing ! Keep up the good work !!!! :bow: :mullet: :clap2: :bow:

Are you speaking of the Laudee (sp?) mudbogs off 301 or whatever? I havent gotten a chance to take a trip out there, but I also havent gotten a chance to finish my hooptie. As far as the air over hydraulic, I was just hindsight venturing, after debating I probably wont go that route since its not very practical. I am considering the setup on the new zuk I'll be building though. :mullet:

[Mr.N]

If you are in the position of using these rotors on a reo you need to contact me...a little more involved than just bolt and go. :biggthump
Will do, but I'm not looking at rockwells for right now... (see how the 60 holds out after I build it)

Is that 6 on 11" or 6 on 8" for the rotor?

[studlybilly]

Will do, but I'm not looking at rockwells for right now... (see how the 60 holds out after I build it)

Is that 6 on 11" or 6 on 8" for the rotor?

6 x 8.75" :biggthump Well let me know and I'll try to help out as much as I can.

[Mr.N]

6 x 8.75" :biggthump Well let me know and I'll try to help out as much as I can.
Sounds good!

I take it you had to mechine both the hub and the rotor?
Did you use the Bus wheel studs?

[studlybilly]

Sounds good!

I take it you had to mechine both the hub and the rotor?

Yup, to a degree

Did you use the Bus wheel studs?

Nope Peterbuilt Studs. The combo for the front only ran me close to 80 bucks, but you can get longer studs/lug nuts from usa6x6.com for like 30 bucks an axle I believe. :biggthump

[studlybilly]

Well just won the auction for my breadtruck:

http://www.dovebid.com/Auctions/Auction10465/lotimagesTRAN0227/0030.jpg

No I don't plan to lift it, it has a 4bt cummins diesel in it with only 65k on it. So I'm going to follow through with the 4bt swap! Can't wait to get started, more pics and updates to come.

[durangotrkrt]

Hope you dont mind me asking but how much did you pay for those gigantic tires? Most of put a dent in your wallet. Thats gonna be one sick offroad truck when its all done :mullet:

[studlybilly]

Well either way, went with a different design. I have brackets on either side and just added a bar beneath. I figured this would be a little bit more promising rather than 1 triangular bar top mounted on the axle. Plus it doesn't seem like I lost to much ground clearance?

http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1538048-Truck1.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1538049-Truck2.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1538050-Truck3.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1538051-Truck4.JPG

I figure when/if I get extreme enough that I start getting hung up on the trac bars (high centered etc.). I'll more than likely link the rear anyways. I didn't finish the drivers side because my bung for the heim got really warped, so I'll finish later. I also haven't finished gusseting the inside how I'd like.

[AUdakota]

Im not sure on the exact numbers but military surplus tires are usually a lot cheaper than you would think. You can usually get the 40-46's for about 3-4 hundred for a set.

[SLT kota]

can we see some pictures of the truck in the driveable state??? I would love to see how you did the steering and such. Also I know it has great gearing but would it still be able to be effective offroad? I know the new motor will have more TQ but will it still have enough power to make it work in mod bogs and such?

Well it looks badass from what I can see. I can't wait for more pics!
Stuart
P.S. Put the rango motor in the bread truck and then lift it! It would look badass with some 35's!

[studlybilly]

can we see some pictures of the truck in the driveable state??? I would love to see how you did the steering and such. Also I know it has great gearing but would it still be able to be effective offroad? I know the new motor will have more TQ but will it still have enough power to make it work in mod bogs and such?


http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1536286-Truck1.JPG
http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/1536287-Truck2.JPG
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Last one if of Nick's Durang-ho. The gearing is there the 318 still struggles since it's moving 3000 lbs of unsprung weight. In an off-roading standpoint it gets bogged down to much. I do intend for the diesel to provide ample power needed (about 300hp @ 2500, 570 lb.ft. @ 1700) down low. The rpms seem to stay low and in perfect running nature for a Diesel. I can try to take pics of the steering, it's merely a full hydraulic setup with a 10" double ended ram. You can almost see it in some of the pics.

P.S. She's still in buildup stages, I'm just taking my sweet time. Next up is moving the front end forward about 6"s (give or take). Then I will do the diesel conversion and turn my NP241 into a planetary mating a Ford NP205 behind it, and finally I should have a power/drivetrain strong enough to handle what this truck will dish and kick back.

[RooKnute]

Sweet, now we need pics posted of you running over that little red car beside you!! :woot:

[maddest_hatter]

Wouldn't a Cummins with 4.88 gears work pretty good for the Red Durango?

[studlybilly]

Wouldn't a Cummins with 4.88 gears work pretty good for the Red Durango?

He intends to do the same swap after I finish mine.

[rtgrouchman]

Sweet, now we need pics posted of you running over that little red car beside you!! :woot:


The red car??? I wanna see it roll over the van! :jester:

[SCD318]

well done! now run shit over! :mullet:

[RooKnute]

well done! now run shit over! :mullet:

:jester: :jester: I love how this guy thinks!! :banana2:

[graham]

That is one sweet machine!! :mullet:

What's your complete truck footprint from side to side?

[studlybilly]

That is one sweet machine!! :mullet:

What's your complete truck footprint from side to side?

Outside tread to outside of tread is perfectly 96"s. John Staz of Stazwork rims did a Mcnasty job at setting the backspacing up juuuust right. :biggthump

[Sicminds0088]

yep, I saw this D riding around my area the other day. lookin pretty nasty :biggthump

[redakota]

how do you get into that thing?? :jester:

[lilguido1]

how do you get into that thing?? :jester:

Elevator or steps on the roof of any Ford....

[duranged_hoe]

I hope no body flames me, but I think the tires are too big how does it even flex?

[Sicminds0088]

I think the tires are too big

Is there such a thing? Just kidding, my knowledge of raised trucks is limited to the stock ride height of my dakota

[SLT kota]

WOW.... that looks great! So do you use the rear steering on the street too? I think you said somehow you were going to rig up a lever to control it.
Thanks,
Stuart

[Daktari]

You're gonna need a 572 hemi just to turn those tires over, not to mention 747 brakes to stop that rolling mass! For crying out loud, are you gonna compete with Big Foot? lol

[studlybilly]

I hope no body flames me, but I think the tires are too big how does it even flex?

No flame-suit needed. My front ended up rubbing a bit more than expected, I'm going to shove it out about 6"s to hopefully put a stop to this. The rear flexes out great, tire ends up an inch from hitting the fender at full stuff. There is still a bit of changes to make. When I originally built this truck I intended for it to be a light wheeler, by "light" I don't mean by weight class, I meant it wouldn't be the truck I beat on heavily. As of now I have the 4bt diesel and after performing the conversion to cummins power I intend to build a zuk up and tow it around with the durango and continue driving the durango on a daily basis. I'm still completing the durango to be functional enough "to" wheel it if desired, but I probably wont beat it half as bad as my reputation holds.

[studlybilly]

WOW.... that looks great! So do you use the rear steering on the street too? I think you said somehow you were going to rig up a lever to control it.
Thanks,
Stuart

In all honesty, I haven't got around to hooking the rear steer up. I locked the rear steering by using 2 small tie-rods on either side and welded the ram mount on the axle. So when the time comes I can merely bolt my ram on, make some adjustments, and hook the rest of the shindig up. The steering system will be controlled off a 3-way spool valve. First switch position will merely steer the front, second will counter the front and rear (like a monster truck), and third position will crab. I'm waitting for Station of Performance Offroad Systems (who pieced my entire system together) to get back to me on a new trick Manifold he has for the spool valve.

[studlybilly]

You're gonna need a 572 hemi just to turn those tires over, not to mention 747 brakes to stop that rolling mass! For crying out loud, are you gonna compete with Big Foot? lol

I originally intended for a gasser engine, but after seeing the RPM range it sticks at I figured a diesel would be perfect for it. So I have a cummins sitting in the geerage now and I'm gathering the stuff to do the swap.

[Mr.N]

My front ended up rubbing a bit more than expected, I'm going to shove it out about 6"s to hopefully put a stop to this. Sure those 53" michelin tires look good, but make sure to trim for the 54" Boggers!


Have a quick link for the Chevy springs? What years are best and such? Thanks.

[JethroStyles]

So I have a cummins sitting in the geerage now and I'm gathering the stuff to do the swap.

Just remember, Cummins' LOVE BOOST! and LOTS OF IT! :woot:

[studlybilly]

Sure those 53" michelin tires look good, but make sure to trim for the 54" Boggers!

Ya I saw and read up on that, seems like it's gonna be kinda pointless and a hefty coin to snag a set of those. I'll stick to my mich's.


Have a quick link for the Chevy springs? What years are best and such? Thanks.

What exactly do you mean by quick link? I ran Superlift 52" long chevy rear springs on the front (8" lift) and Pro-Comp 56" Chevy rear springs on the rear (6" lift). The offset of the 56" chevy is the closet I could come to matching the original off-set of the rear spring. I also flipped the spring around to increase Wheelbase.

[studlybilly]

Just remember, Cummins' LOVE BOOST! and LOTS OF IT! :woot:

Ya I know, but a downfall of course is that a 4bt is 2/3rds the motor that a 6bt is. So You can squeeze about 300hp/600lbft. out of them safely. :biggthump

[Franko]

Ya I know, but a downfall of course is that a 4bt is 2/3rds the motor that a 6bt is. So You can squeeze about 300hp/600lbft. out of them safely. :biggthump


Ive seen you around town quite a few times since youve gotten it done. Ive tried to stop you a few times to talk to you but weve always been going different directions. we gave each other a heads up at the beach this year on fourth of july. ive got a big jeep that was parked on 1st street right in front of the fireworks. i tried to flag you in but i dont think you heard me whistlin. anyhow, my plan is to swap from corporates to the 2.5 tons. and i was going to talk to you about what youve found out on anscillary parts and mechanical natures of it.

also wouldnt mind talking to you about where you guys are runnin, ive been tryin to hook up with some local 4by's. i came down from kentucky a couple summers back so i havent met a lot of big wheelers here, ive met mostly muscle car guys.

[studlybilly]

Ive seen you around town quite a few times since youve gotten it done. Ive tried to stop you a few times to talk to you but weve always been going different directions. we gave each other a heads up at the beach this year on fourth of july. ive got a big jeep that was parked on 1st street right in front of the fireworks. i tried to flag you in but i dont think you heard me whistlin. anyhow, my plan is to swap from corporates to the 2.5 tons. and i was going to talk to you about what youve found out on anscillary parts and mechanical natures of it.

also wouldnt mind talking to you about where you guys are runnin, ive been tryin to hook up with some local 4by's. i came down from kentucky a couple summers back so i havent met a lot of big wheelers here, ive met mostly muscle car guys.

I remember you! My GF was like "there's some guy telling you to stop" but I would have hit 5 people easily. Ya my truck is just a work in progress, slowing down a little now because I'm about to go buy a towpig, a house, and the old lady a Durango. I'm actually going to have to back out of the diesel because Florida is going to start doing emissions (OBDII and III) in 2009. :argue: So why set myself up for failure?

Sure I can tell you everything you need to know on getting setup on some rocks cheaply and safely. I haven't been out in a while with the gang (school and work consumes me). I'm always on the run so don't be offended, also a lot of people tend to honk at me even if they don't know me so don't take offense if I don't respond as well. I'm sure you'll catch me, do you drive your jeep around? If I see it cruising (from what I remember of it) I'll try and spot you sometime.

[Franko]

I remember you! My GF was like "there's some guy telling you to stop" but I would have hit 5 people easily............................................ ........................................

Yea i like to take a cruise up and down A1A and loop 1st street on the beach every couple weeks. i live at the base of the dames point bridge, so i try and cruise krystals on merril and brewsters for the rod runs. there was a 4x4 cruise in at krystals on merril a few weeks ago and didnt even know it, i seen pictures on the web. so i try to get the jeep out when ever i can, but when its just me, i generally get in my grand prix and hit the cruises. my dad has a black 66 vette convertible and our friends have some mint chevelles and vipers so i generally gravitate to the rod runs cause i havent met any 4by guys. but on the weekends i cruise hugenot beach and 1st street when i can. i like hugenot because you can actually cruise the beach.

My jeep is the only one ive seen here on 44s. and its primer gray right now, so its pretty easy to recognize. and i have a red windshield frame because im getting ready to replace it. i have a late model LT1 in it so it rocks with power. but im surprised to see florida is bringing back emissions testing.

as far as your thinking about diesel for torque gains, im not sure if your familiar but transdapt has some nice kits for doubling jeep 300 transfer cases, to give you a radical torque spread from a severely low range that switches to highway range. and the 300s are small and gear to gear bulletproof. they are everybit as brutish as the np205s (made alike) and allow for a lot of driveshaft distance.

anyhow, you cant miss my jeep. and i try to hit the cruise ins. im a big 4x4 fan, ive had em all my days of drivin. i used to be a 4x4 mechanic for quite a few performance shops and have built a lot of jeeps and trucks and anything else with big tires, and race cars for that matter as well. if there are any get togethers let me know, you can PM me and i'll give you my info, or i'll update my contact info here. i'd appreciate any help when i go to swap my axles. im sure theres plenty of experience with the parts resourcing that you could definately help me with as well. Good to finally talk to you.

i remember the first day i say your truck, i though man, that is a boss truck. my brother sent me this link of the progress after you had completed it, i said man, this dude lives right here, ive seen him down off girvin. http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q250/ogdaddy/Frankotoys.jpg

[studlybilly]

i remember the first day i say your truck, i though man, that is a boss truck. my brother sent me this link of the progress after you had completed it, i said man, this dude lives right here, ive seen him down off girvin. http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q250/ogdaddy/Frankotoys.jpg

Yup that's it, I remember that one, that's a kickass rig! I really dig CJ's on 44's. 'Preciate the comments on the truck. My office is down at the beaches off 18 ave. north and 3rd. So you may see me park in front of my office building every once in a while. Seems as though your starting to hang around the lingo, I could definitely get you in touch with some guys actively ready to ride and always looking for new trail partners. There's not THAT much to do in Jax., but they organize some cool meets down in Ocala, in Riverrock, hell everywhere. Clay County Off-Roaders has a man-made course somewhere, they hold Joe's backyard bash (Joe is the founder of CCOR) there every year. If I can ever get my t/case setup in I'm ready to go terrorize something. Just as stated, it's been a work in progress and I wont rush through anything this time (used to be on D44/9" with 38.5 SX's). As far as getting you setup on reo's, there really is nothing to it. I actually pieced together the wheelbrake setup on the front of my rig using components I found on the internet, seemed to run about a $550 tab instead of the $1200 it costs to setup wheelbrakes. I run a Pinion Brake on the rear though. Whenever your ready to make a move let me know and we can get started, and if I see you around I'll definitely try to stop.

[Franko]

ive done some homework on the internet and found an ocala jeep club that does a lot of trail riding there, and the pictures look awsome, the place looks beautiful and sandy too. i was planning on getting another jeep cj5 on maybe 33s to do some trail riding and general driving. i love the sand here, back in kentucky it took me an average of 10 dollars in quarters to clean all the mud off from a trail ride. here its all sand, so the clean up is easy as hell, i can appreciate that.

but my next goal is to get that cj5, kinda like your doin with the samurai. where did you get your reo's. did you ebay them? and what can i expect to pay for them? another thing i was wondering, is if i pick a set up, what am i going to have to look at for reconditioning parts, im guessing i cant just bolt em under. and im not sure what to expect when looking up rebuild kits for them as far as seals, fluid, races and bearings and such.

also, ive seen that red durango buddy of yours, parked on the side of atlantic just over the mayport bridge in some business lot. i always wanted to pop in there and talk to him, but didnt know what business it was, and thats the only place ive seen him as well. thats a fine ride too. i havent found any local 4x4 clubs, most that ive found are out in orange park, i dont understand why there arent a few on this side of town. and i for sure dont know why there arent 4x4 shows and runs, hell there are just as many big trucks as there are muscle cars. i would like to see more truck runs. back in kentucky we used to have a lot of big truck meets. i see those jeepers in ocala get together weekly, i wish it were here. seems like everything is always at least an hour away.

BTW as far as being in a durango forum, 3 years ago i almost bought this truck that a dealership up in maryland i think it was, named it a dodge dacuda, a silver dakota dressed as a cuda with strips and spoiler and all from a dealership, but not factory production, i was about an hour from picking it up and bailed. i was worried about the resale value as the best price i got was 14,500. it was a radical truck though. nice lookin. i figured in the end since it wasnt tagged from factory as a dacuda that any ole dakota could be dressed for less and have the same eye appeal for a lot less. i'll have to post pics of that truck.

[Franko]

BTW i guess i'll throw these in, in the interest of the forum. i thought this was a really nice dakota. this is the "DaCuda" i almost bought. id love to have changed it over to a 4x4. but i backed out the last hour sweating the true value of the truck. i probably could have cloned it for less.

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[02daksxt]

updates?

[Jimmy Dodge]

Well we dont "have" to cover our tires, I just wanted to get a 6" extended bushwacker flare but they havent made any for dak's/rango's. Oh well, I'll be wide stepping it.

I agree with Bushwaker or somebody making a wider flare, I'd be happy with 4" to cover mine, I think it's funny that the basicaly the only flare they produce is a stock type, selling for almost 700 bucks around here...

but hey that's an awesome build, keep UP the good work :biggthump

[Jimmy Dodge]

I'm actually going to have to back out of the diesel because Florida is going to start doing emissions (OBDII and III) in 2009. :argue: So why set myself up for failure?

you should check into these emissions test, we have to do them here in Ontario every 2 years now, for anything newer than 20 years old. I've seen them do diesels though (passenger), and basicly they put them on a lift (no need for you) check to make sure all the mandatory pieces are there, drop it back down start the vehicle and check the amount of smoke on start up... no probe was used in the tail pipe... however, big trucks (transport) do get probed, so it might be worth while to check into anyway... :biggthump

[studlybilly]

you should check into these emissions test, we have to do them here in Ontario every 2 years now, for anything newer than 20 years old. I've seen them do diesels though (passenger), and basicly they put them on a lift (no need for you) check to make sure all the mandatory pieces are there, drop it back down start the vehicle and check the amount of smoke on start up... no probe was used in the tail pipe... however, big trucks (transport) do get probed, so it might be worth while to check into anyway... :biggthump

Well now I'm being told there will be no emissions, it's back and forth. I think I'm going to just collect parts and sit it out for a little to close in more and see if they'll pass it. I was told I wouldn't pass emissions because a diesel never came in a Durango, and any engine swap has to be the same year or newer. Unless I could title it as a "Home-Built", which technically it is but I'm not sure how that would work out.

[Jimmy Dodge]

Well now I'm being told there will be no emissions, it's back and forth. I think I'm going to just collect parts and sit it out for a little to close in more and see if they'll pass it. I was told I wouldn't pass emissions because a diesel never came in a Durango, and any engine swap has to be the same year or newer. Unless I could title it as a "Home-Built", which technically it is but I'm not sure how that would work out.

it's funny how that works in different places, my uncle has a GenI Dak, he put a 318 in it from a Cordoba, had to have exhaust, drive shaft etc fabbed up, it was kept carburated and when he took it to get it E-tested they told him it didn't need to be done as it was custom...

[studlybilly]

here's is the final and new stance. Only thing left is to gusset and apparently clean/paint everything. I'm building a front d'shaft that shouldn't break. This weekend is it's first test run so stay tuned for pics.

[studlybilly]

Last 3 for now.

[bpitz15]

dear lord man! that is looking soo sick!
get some vids of that thing running over a car or something!!

[Bad_banana]

lmao, or running over a school bus or dump truck. That thing going over a car is like our stock truck going over a curb.

[studlybilly]

Forklifted the new setup today, turned out good although we had to stop since it needs bumpstops on the front. Still a bit more to squeeze out of it. The rear also isn't done and the tires are fully aired up.

[Luckey]

Now the cops can't say your bumper is too high. I like how you made the rear bumper a step as well.

[Jimmy Dodge]

nice flex for a little truck, hehe
but I want to see the next series of pics where you run the forklift over :bow:

[WentInsane]

That D looks sick!!. I can not wait to do a SFA swap on my dak. It will not be nearly as extreme, did you ever hook up the from drive shaft?

[studlybilly]

That D looks sick!!. I can not wait to do a SFA swap on my dak. It will not be nearly as extreme, did you ever hook up the from drive shaft?

Actually that's the reason I didn't get to go out this Sunday, I need to make a new front D'shaft. Plus the truck could use a couple things, gonna throw a panhard together and get some bumpstops on it.

[jimmyt83]

THAT D IS ABSOLUTELY SICK!!! AWESOME JOB!! It could definately use some flares, though...surely somewhere, there's a set to be bought...or built...

[WentInsane]

Whatever happend to installing the 4BT? Are you going to put it on stands for a lower stance to actually install the 4BT? Or are you going to use a crane to drop in the engine?

[studlybilly]

Whatever happend to installing the 4BT? Are you going to put it on stands for a lower stance to actually install the 4BT? Or are you going to use a crane to drop in the engine?

Still have my 2 4bt's. As of now it's about to get a light tear-down. Going to grader-ball one link it front and rear on 3.5" bore cylinders, redo all the brakes and re-paint/powdercoat some stuff. Then go from there.

[NorCal_Dakota]

any updates?

Kevin

[studlybilly]

any updates?

Kevin

I still haven't got a chance to tear it down. I just snagged a condo at the beaches so I was busy with moving. Then school came up again. I also got a boat (so that's another money pit). Still got the diesels and hopefully soon I'll be ordering the suspension stuff.

I was also able to tear the lowered bumpers off. Found a loop-hole and took advantage of it. Got my truck commercially registered over the bumper height class, only thing that applies now is headlight height. I can legally drive without my seatbelt now though. :D

[a4x44ted]

You have done a great job on your rig. Thanks for all the in depth info that you have given us throughout.

Ted

[studlybilly]

Took it out last weekend and yesterday. Fun little place to goof off, Whitney had a problem taking good action shots since her camera delays taking the picture. I came out one less transfer case in the end but it damn sure wasn't as much breakage as the Bash course run.

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[studlybilly]

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I'll post the pics from yesterday here shortly.

[graham]

That is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[trevor]

:drool:
you sir, and your durango, are a god among us men :jester:

[ajjacobs]

Hell YES!! Been watching this from the beginning and have been waiting, patiently for the action shots. Simply awesome. Thanks.

AJ

[studlybilly]

Threw a new t/case in my hooptie and made it back out yesterday. I ended up playing in 2wd most of the time but it was still a lot of fun. I of course still broke something, the rear tubing on my traction bar setup sheared. I think it was the material itself, so I'm gonna beef things up a bit more.

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[studlybilly]

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Most of the guys on 40's+ were having to lock it in, so I just played in 2wd and tried to churn things up more. These tires are actually very impressive to be honest.

[NorCal_Dakota]

turned out nice dude...how the hell did you break your case like that? driveshaft to long?

Kevin

[studlybilly]

turned out nice dude...how the hell did you break your case like that? driveshaft to long?

Kevin

We still don't entirely know, I know for a fact it had plenty of slip going in, it "could" have slipped out and binded up. I just built the shaft longer just in case and threw a new case in. I'll be doing a 231 crawler box/205 doubler setup here soon

[Mr.N]

We still don't entirely know, I know for a fact it had plenty of slip going in,
From the picture, sure doesn't look like that drive shaft had much slip.
I've seen it on the trail before, sure looks like to long a drive shaft.

Ever think of a square tube drive shaft?
I've try'n a mid 70's shaft with 8" of spline, and 9.5" of travel for my next front shaft.

[studlybilly]

From the picture, sure doesn't look like that drive shaft had much slip.
I've seen it on the trail before, sure looks like to long a drive shaft.

Ever think of a square tube drive shaft?
I've try'n a mid 70's shaft with 8" of spline, and 9.5" of travel for my next front shaft.

When I throw this diesel in I'm planning on putting 1410 yoke on the front output and building a square.

The current slip is 5.25"s, which the articulation my suspension gives (along the with length an angle the shaft is at) requires only 7/8's of yoke in, and 3.125"s of yoke out. So the way I have it built there's a higher possibility of it slipping out and binding up. There really is no telling nor do I really care, I was balls into it when it happened.

[NorCal_Dakota]

I am running a square shaft on mine, 12 in of slip with 2in of engagment at full extension, .25 wall. only cost me $25 to make

Kevin

[Mr.N]

I was balls into it when it happened.
Understand that!

I had a guy tell me he was very glad he video taped my driving up a hill while he was in my Jeep, because he could prove he didn't piss his pants. :funny:

[myrtlebeachbst]

Will this truck still run the stock steering box ? With hydraulic assist or is it being swapped out

[studlybilly]

Will this truck still run the stock steering box ? With hydraulic assist or is it being swapped out

I "could" have ran mechanical steering hydro assist, but this truck runs full hydrostatic steering. So I have an orbital mounted just above where the steering box would be.

[myrtlebeachbst]

Is it possible to remove the Pittman arm and reinstall it facing the front of the truck rather than the rear, I know this does not apply to your build, but I am just curious if this might be possible when doing a SAS on a durango my local shop says it can but I have lost all faith in them because of a mix-up on my Dana 44

[thebanjoman]

Is it possible to remove the Pittman arm and reinstall it facing the front of the truck rather than the rear, I know this does not apply to your build, but I am just curious if this might be possible when doing a SAS on a durango my local shop says it can but I have lost all faith in them because of a mix-up on my Dana 44

Sure, you can pull te pitman arm and swap it.

If you like turning right to go left and left to go right.:nana:

If you want a forward facing arm you need a steering box made that way. A Chevy Astro, An International or a Toyotta FJ60 steering box comes to mind. You can't just turn it around as it won't work.

[Mr.N]

If you want a forward facing arm you need a steering box made that way. A Chevy Astro, An International or a Toyotta FJ60 steering box comes to mind. You can't just turn it around as it won't work.
I mainly stick to just rebuilding a stock box... and have my eye on a J20 box...

But I though you could swap the inners of a regular Saginaw sector with and Astro Van Saginaw sector and get a reverse steering box? - Don't take my word for it, but there is a thread over on Pirate about this...

[SLT kota]

lol, it would be fun for a little while to have the steering backwards... but on a golf cart or something.

Billy, I have never seen a dakota/durango make a 2 ft deep pond look like a puddle before! Looks great man, I want to see some video's! Ohh and one of a girl just getting into the durango :jester:

I know that in FL you need a big truck, not one that can flex but do you think you will ever have any problems with the tires hitting the fender since you streached and lowered it?

[studlybilly]

Billy, I have never seen a dakota/durango make a 2 ft deep pond look like a puddle before! Looks great man, I want to see some video's! Ohh and one of a girl just getting into the durango :jester:

I know that in FL you need a big truck, not one that can flex but do you think you will ever have any problems with the tires hitting the fender since you streached and lowered it?

I moved the front end forward a bit so it wouldn't rub at full stuff/steer:
http://www.forums.claycounty4x4.com/uploads/post-31-1172786192.jpg

I was happy with the flex, we actually had to stop since it didn't have bumpstops and needed:
http://www.forums.claycounty4x4.com/uploads/post-31-1173045955.jpg

My GF stands 5'2 and she gets right in it, hell she even drives it around lol.

[krweby]

I mainly stick to just rebuilding a stock box... and have my eye on a J20 box...

But I though you could swap the inners of a regular Saginaw sector with and Astro Van Saginaw sector and get a reverse steering box? - Don't take my word for it, but there is a thread over on Pirate about this...

Or you could just use a Ford box.

[sltdak]

Damn, that's hot.
I was wondering where you stand now on the diesel conversion? And I was thinking, if you're gonna go diesel, why not go balls out and go with a 6BT. There was a guy on another Dodge site that put a 6BT in a Dakota, said it dropped it, no need to cut the firewall or anything like that.

[studlybilly]

Damn, that's hot.
I was wondering where you stand now on the diesel conversion? And I was thinking, if you're gonna go diesel, why not go balls out and go with a 6BT. There was a guy on another Dodge site that put a 6BT in a Dakota, said it dropped it, no need to cut the firewall or anything like that.

Ya I think that was the guy I was chatting with for a while, he showed me some pics, but man that was an extremely tight fit. I also already have 2 low mileage 4bt's.

The diesel conversion has been a fantasy of mine for a while now, I go back and forth though. Hell I've even contemplated throwing a couple of hair dryers on a 8.1L BBC, or even throwing a turbo or two on the fagnum.

[sltdak]

Ya I think that was the guy I was chatting with for a while, he showed me some pics, but man that was an extremely tight fit. I also already have 2 low mileage 4bt's.

The diesel conversion has been a fantasy of mine for a while now, I go back and forth though. Hell I've even contemplated throwing a couple of hair dryers on a 8.1L BBC, or even throwing a turbo or two on the fagnum.

So...what are you going to do with two engines? Surely you aren't going to put both into your Durango...are you? Do you already have a project in mind for the other engine, or is that one going to your buddy with the red Durango?
About how much trouble was it for you to get those engines? And if you were to let one go, how much trouble would you let it go for?
Sorry for all the questions, but I seriously want a diesel in my Dak and I'm trying to plan and calculate to see if it'd be worth it for me.
Thanks for any info you can give me.

[studlybilly]

So...what are you going to do with two engines? Surely you aren't going to put both into your Durango...are you? Do you already have a project in mind for the other engine, or is that one going to your buddy with the red Durango?
About how much trouble was it for you to get those engines? And if you were to let one go, how much trouble would you let it go for?
Sorry for all the questions, but I seriously want a diesel in my Dak and I'm trying to plan and calculate to see if it'd be worth it for me.
Thanks for any info you can give me.

Well I'm actually in a decision factor on what I'm doing. I currently have a 503 BBC vortech at a machine shop that is about to get worked on, along with a TV8101 turbo and megasquirt system. So it's really coming down to either the diesel or the BBC. Once I make my mind up I will go from there.

[TJ5854]

trucks looking good man.

[Bad_banana]

503bbc with vortech:)

[TJ5854]

cummins..

[studlybilly]

I think I'm gonna do some horse trading with one of my 4bt's and try a 6bt, I still have the BBC up at the machine shop that I need to pickup. I'll probably put it all together just in case I don't like the diesel, in that case all I'll have to do is bolt the BBC in place of the cummins (running a TH475 trans).