test drove a Challenger tonight

[djRavage]

got a call from a Dodge dealership nearby because i gave my number to dodge.com and i took a trip to see the Challengers they had. because their dealership is near crackhead central, they weren't too keen on the idea of letting a hemi car out for test drives.

the V6 (which is probably what i'm getting, thanks to our economy sucking donkey balls) still has some giddy-up. it actually felt like my R/T was stock....not as torquey, but still has some pep. granted, i only drove the thing for like 10 minutes, but i like how it feels. it's a BIG car and owning a truck for 10 years means i'd prefer something that's not small. the car i drove had sirius radio, something i don't care for and a sunroof....something else i don't care for. cloth seats and an automatic (no stick on the six), but it felt nice. my only complaint is the horrible blindspot over my left shoulder when i was backing the car back into the lot. it's REALLY bad....but you can't have everything.

all in all....i still want one. i want either Dark Titanium or Silver...V6...put an exhaust, a cold air kit, maybe drop it, tint the windows with some nice wheels and i'll have a sweet daily cruiser.....

[DAKSPORT1PA]

Cool.

You're not getting rid of the Dakota are ya?

[eharri3]

The most compromise I may convince myself to make with pocketbook issues is to go for the 30 thousand dollar 5.7 with 380 horse over the 41 thousand dollar SRT8. That's about it. Maybe you could live with a V6 challenger, Id always wonder what could have been. Kind of like the really really unbelievably hot chick at the end of the bar to the left whose lookin your way. But instead of getting up the nerve to slide over and initiate a conversation with her you settle for the fatter uglier one to the right just because she seems like an easier target and you don't need to have as strong of a game to take her home.

[Jjud13]

^^^^^:clap2:

[70Cuda383]

got a call from a Dodge dealership nearby because i gave my number to dodge.com and i took a trip to see the Challengers they had. because their dealership is near crackhead central, they weren't too keen on the idea of letting a hemi car out for test drives.

the V6 (which is probably what i'm getting, thanks to our economy sucking donkey balls) still has some giddy-up. it actually felt like my R/T was stock....not as torquey, but still has some pep. granted, i only drove the thing for like 10 minutes, but i like how it feels. it's a BIG car and owning a truck for 10 years means i'd prefer something that's not small. the car i drove had sirius radio, something i don't care for and a sunroof....something else i don't care for. cloth seats and an automatic (no stick on the six), but it felt nice. my only complaint is the horrible blindspot over my left shoulder when i was backing the car back into the lot. it's REALLY bad....but you can't have everything.

all in all....i still want one. i want either Dark Titanium or Silver...V6...put an exhaust, a cold air kit, maybe drop it, tint the windows with some nice wheels and i'll have a sweet daily cruiser.....



Trust me, the originals had that same blind spot. tiny back window, giant c-pillars, backing my car into a parking space, I always had to open the door and put my head outside looking back to do it right the first time...can't see out the back window and the mirrors don't help much.

I got used to it though, and it didn't bother me. nice to know the new ones have the same problem!

[moore_716]

I looked at a Challenger R/T the other night at a local car cruise. It was an auto, maybe they aall are idk. Here's my thoughts on the car. I liked the looks, but form some angles the proportions seemed off. I used to have a Cuda myself. There was lots of interior and trunk space. I couldn't see the engine in the bay cause of the huge engine cover. There is also an underhood cover so I couldn't see what it was hiding. I would like to know if you could make the scoops functional. Of course the intake sits at the very front drivers side though. Looking underneath the hood and the trunk lid the paint was not glossy. It ws like they didn't clear those parts. I know they don't show but still. Also On the leading edge of the hood lip in front (you could only see this when the hood was up) there were som huge paint sags. Detroits finest. I know $32,000 isn't an ungodly amount of money for a vehicle anymore but to me it is. I wouldn't buy one if the fit and finish weren't better. Hell I remember when you could almost buy a house for that kind of $$. I might consider the V6 myself. I would want a stick though. I wonder why they couldn't have made the V6 with a 6 spd. option. That might have been a fun car. I did notice the window sticker of the car said 25 mpg hwy. Better than my 3.9 but with a 5.7.

[01SilverDak01]

With the Economy going in the Toilet and the Price of Gas, Insurance, and Daily living expenses going absolutely Insane, the V6 Challengers are probably going to be a popular model......

they'll cost less to buy initially, get slightly better gas mileage, and they will cost less to insure over the long term.....

The Average working guy won't be able to afford a 32K Hemi or 42K SRT model, I'm betting by next summer the v6 cars will be getting good discounts and rebates to get them off the lots........

[96BlkDak]

I looked at one one of our developers bought its pretty sweet. I also was passed the other day by a black Challenger racing a first gen Viper GTS

[eharri3]

I tend to find when you don't go for what you really want the first time you get tired of it and start wanting something else sooner, meaning you'll end up trading after a only a few years and it actually costs you more money than if you buy the more upscale, gas guzzling big-engine version first time around and hold onto it for longer. When you pay more up front and get the nicer version you're less likely to want to throw money away by trading it in 3 years later.

I've had 'stripper' versions of various things, now Id rather find more cash and get what I know I really want the first time. Life is too short. If some people can honestly be happy long term with a V6 good for them, but alot of people won't and you'll end up seeing the cars for sale again in 5 years or less because they want to upgrade at some point. I say if you're just 'settling' for a V6, it makes more financial sense in the long run to take another year or two to scrape more $$ together and get a car you'll love and hold the car for a long time than to buy now and trade later.

[ColoDak]

Monday when I dropped the Dak. at the dealer, I wa looking at some Challengers. They had 4 of them, all V6's. The Hemi's are all pre-sold. The sales man(I know him so he's not as likely to BS me) said that they have pre-orders for 32 Hemi's. None are custom, when one comes in, they call the next person on the list. The V6 models, here locally anyway are going for $27,500 to $28,500 including $2,400 dealer markup.

[Ben]

I know money is a issue, but take it from me and get the V8 or nothing. I had a 95 Mustang 3.8 and I always wished I would have got the 5.0 and never really was proud of that car like I could have been.

[Rob454]

Eh the challenger doesnt do much for me. its nice but its a heavy ass pig IMO. What i dont like is that if you buy the v6 strippo model or the SRT model the interiors are basically the same interior. you woudl think for the extra 15-20K that the SRT costs you woudl get a better interior

[BAdassR/T]

4300 pounds ill pass- id rather have the charger srt-

[djRavage]

With the Economy going in the Toilet and the Price of Gas, Insurance, and Daily living expenses going absolutely Insane, the V6 Challengers are probably going to be a popular model......

they'll cost less to buy initially, get slightly better gas mileage, and they will cost less to insure over the long term.....

The Average working guy won't be able to afford a 32K Hemi or 42K SRT model, I'm betting by next summer the v6 cars will be getting good discounts and rebates to get them off the lots........

precisely why i want the V6. i'm keeping my Dakota (to answer daksportPA's inquiry) so that'll be my V8 powered "toy". the challenger will be my daily driver...so the gas mileage and being able to run it on regular octane is very important. plus, i don't care for all the doohickies that come with the upgrade models....i don't like sunroofs...don't care for satellite radio or leather....if i could order an R/T with NONE of that shit, i would....but it comes as a package. and it's not like the dakota R/T which was a $2000 add on to a sport...a Challenger R/T is TEN GRAND more....that's a big chunk of coin. maybe you can afford it, but i can't.

give me an SE....i'll add my own wheels, my own stereo and some minor engine upgrades and hopefully someone will make a shaker hood to fit the V6s and i'll be happy :mullet:

[DAKSPORT1PA]

precisely why i want the V6. i'm keeping my Dakota (to answer daksportPA's inquiry) so that'll be my V8 powered "toy". the challenger will be my daily driver...so the gas mileage and being able to run it on regular octane is very important. plus, i don't care for all the doohickies that come with the upgrade models....i don't like sunroofs...don't care for satellite radio or leather....if i could order an R/T with NONE of that shit, i would....but it comes as a package. and it's not like the dakota R/T which was a $2000 add on to a sport...a Challenger R/T is TEN GRAND more....that's a big chunk of coin. maybe you can afford it, but i can't.

give me an SE....i'll add my own wheels, my own stereo and some minor engine upgrades and hopefully someone will make a shaker hood to fit the V6s and i'll be happy :mullet:

Glad to hear it. I couldn't imagine you getting rid of Prime after all the work you put in.

[TurboBlew]

why would you get a cheapo challanger? Aint no way Id get that car without the V8.
if you cant afford it...save up some more $$$.

[DAKSPORT1PA]

why would you get a cheapo challanger? Aint no way Id get that car without the V8.
if you cant afford it...save up some more $$$.

He already has a V8 and would like it for his DD. I think a 6cyl. Challenger would make a damn nice DD. Not everyone wants a car to beat the piss out of and go fast. Some like them due to their looks.

Just sayin. :D

[TurboBlew]

He already has a V8 and would like it for his DD. I think a 6cyl. Challenger would make a damn nice DD. Not everyone wants a car to beat the piss out of and go fast. Some like them due to their looks.

Just sayin. :D

that sounds like car salesmen talk.

Lemme see... I want a $26k car for a daily driver.... get the fuck outta here!
That body style with a V6 screams fucking POSER.
Same with V6 mustangs and old camaros.
If I hear someone complain about gas mileage again.. Im going to go postal!

Here it is... if you want to save gas, pedal a fucking bike. Ill be every single person complaining about gas prices hasnt fucking pedaled a bicycle in a few years... if ever. Stop being lazy fucking flesh bags.
If you have to drive 50miles round trip to make $10/hr... wouldnt it make sense to earn $8/hr 2 miles from your house???

[mopar318]

Nice Daily driver? Ill stick with my 2,000 dollar FWD turbo car. Good in snow, great on gas, Cheap on insurance, and plenty of money left over for whatever else.

[BAD]

nothing wrong with the v6 challenger, I like them a lot and not a bad price. If nothing else in about a year there will probably be a kit to swap a hemi in there.

[djRavage]

that sounds like car salesmen talk.

Lemme see... I want a $26k car for a daily driver.... get the fuck outta here!
That body style with a V6 screams fucking POSER.
Same with V6 mustangs and old camaros.
If I hear someone complain about gas mileage again.. Im going to go postal!

Here it is... if you want to save gas, pedal a fucking bike. Ill be every single person complaining about gas prices hasnt fucking pedaled a bicycle in a few years... if ever. Stop being lazy fucking flesh bags.
If you have to drive 50miles round trip to make $10/hr... wouldnt it make sense to earn $8/hr 2 miles from your house???

wow..."poser"? hello, 1995...good to see you again. you down wit OPP?

a base Challenger is $20,000....and being that i've been in the business for 10 years (sold cars, worked service and now i work wholesale parts), i'll be able to talk the salesman down a few bucks. and arguing 20k Vs 2k in relevance of a daily driver...that's just silly. i'm itching for a new car and i love the look of the challenger, regardless of the package.

and all things being equal....why aren't you people jumping over every V6 Dakota owner? the Daks have been available with V8 power since the Shelby back in the 90s (you know....where that "poser" comment came from).

case dismissed....V6 it is....

[TurboBlew]

And you homos wonder why you cant afford anything nice...lol

Yeah.. lets buy a V6 poser car... that you will be instantaneously upside down in... trying to bail yourself out 1 $400 payment at a time. (plus insurance)
Oh you're daily driving to your $35k/hr job?? Nice...lol.
Lets work all year to pay the depreciation on my new shitbox

[TurboBlew]

nothing wrong with the v6 challenger, I like them a lot and not a bad price. If nothing else in about a year there will probably be a kit to swap a hemi in there.

yeah... lets buy a v6 car for full pop then try to retro fit a Hemmay into it...lol

wow... there really is no hope for you peoples

[DAKSPORT1PA]

that sounds like car salesmen talk.

Lemme see... I want a $26k car for a daily driver.... get the fuck outta here!
That body style with a V6 screams fucking POSER.
Same with V6 mustangs and old camaros.
If I hear someone complain about gas mileage again.. Im going to go postal!

Here it is... if you want to save gas, pedal a fucking bike. Ill be every single person complaining about gas prices hasnt fucking pedaled a bicycle in a few years... if ever. Stop being lazy fucking flesh bags.
If you have to drive 50miles round trip to make $10/hr... wouldnt it make sense to earn $8/hr 2 miles from your house???

I'm just stating what he already said. I'm not a car salesman. Just stating the truth. If he likes it thats all that matters.

I see no need for you to smash him about it.

[mopar318]

And you homos wonder why you cant afford anything nice...lol

Yeah.. lets buy a V6 poser car... that you will be instantaneously upside down in... trying to bail yourself out 1 $400 payment at a time. (plus insurance)
Oh you're daily driving to your $35k/hr job?? Nice...lol.
Lets work all year to pay the depreciation on my new shitbox

Thats why god invented the genII, and TD's.

I should have piece of lawn art here soon for my new race car. (20) Shitboxes > (1)30,000 challenger.:mullet:

[TurboBlew]

I'm just stating what he already said. I'm not a car salesman. Just stating the truth. If he likes it thats all that matters.

I see no need for you to smash him about it.

you are missing the big picture here though.
A v8 is ALWAYS more desirable for resale. Nobody wants a shitbox v6.
Just do a search here on V6 swaps.
So if you're going to plunk down coin on a car... might as well be one youre gonna LOVE...and not just like or settle for.
Since most of youse guys is paying 1 monthly note at a time... this holds especially true for your demographic.

[TurboBlew]

Thats why god invented the genII, and TD's.

I should have piece of lawn art here soon for my new race car. (20) Shitboxes > (1)30,000 challenger.:mullet:

Thats right! TD and Gen 2s!!! :jester:

[viperkota]

that sounds like car salesmen talk.

Lemme see... I want a $26k car for a daily driver.... get the fuck outta here!
That body style with a V6 screams fucking POSER.
Same with V6 mustangs and old camaros.
If I hear someone complain about gas mileage again.. Im going to go postal!



agreed, i have found it weird for a "sports" car to have a little engine

i bought my dak pretty basic...so i could turn it into what i want

[DAKSPORT1PA]

you are missing the big picture here though.
A v8 is ALWAYS more desirable for resale. Nobody wants a shitbox v6.
Just do a search here on V6 swaps.
So if you're going to plunk down coin on a car... might as well be one youre gonna LOVE...and not just like or settle for.
Since most of youse guys is paying 1 monthly note at a time... this holds especially true for your demographic.

I"m not worried about the big picture here. He's getting the car. Not you. He wants a 6. End of story. He wasn't asking for an opinion. Just stating a fact.

Secondly, you have no idea about me or most of the other people on this site and how we pay for things. So I'd suggest laying off comments like that. Thanks.

[70Cuda383]

I looked at a Challenger R/T the other night at a local car cruise. It was an auto, maybe they aall are idk. Here's my thoughts on the car. I liked the looks, but form some angles the proportions seemed off. I used to have a Cuda myself. There was lots of interior and trunk space. I couldn't see the engine in the bay cause of the huge engine cover. There is also an underhood cover so I couldn't see what it was hiding. I would like to know if you could make the scoops functional. Of course the intake sits at the very front drivers side though. Looking underneath the hood and the trunk lid the paint was not glossy. It ws like they didn't clear those parts. I know they don't show but still. Also On the leading edge of the hood lip in front (you could only see this when the hood was up) there were som huge paint sags. Detroits finest. I know $32,000 isn't an ungodly amount of money for a vehicle anymore but to me it is. I wouldn't buy one if the fit and finish weren't better.


uh...are you describing the new car or the original?

again, I think that's cool that it has paint sags and runs like the original did.

as for the bickering over the v6 or v8...get over it. get what YOU want. not what someone else wants you to get.


food for thought: if the new challenger was like the corvette or viper with nothing available but pure performance, the SRTs price would be much higher than it is, and there would be a lot less of them out there. but, by offering a cheaper, more economic version that will sell in huge volumes, they can lower the price for the performance models and make more of them. same thing with mustangs. 70% of the mustangs out there are V6s.

so, if the guy wants a V6, let him buy a V6 and thank him for buying one of the economy versions because that allows you to go buy the SRT version.

Fuck. at least they are Making this car unlike the charger concept from 1999 that got shitcan'd

[96BlkDak]

If your going to get a V6 car then try to do an engine swap later you might as well go get the big block 426 hemi with a 6pack and really make it unique.

[duranged_hoe]

Not to start any shit, but why buy a "muscle car" with out the muscle? Its like buying a v6 mustang. It just screams poser. I mean hell would you go and date an aids infested blonde hooker?, just to say Well she is still a blonde? You might as well put 20's on a ford escort.

[meangreen]

:clap2::clap2::clap2:uh...are you describing the new car or the original?

again, I think that's cool that it has paint sags and runs like the original did.

as for the bickering over the v6 or v8...get over it. get what YOU want. not what someone else wants you to get.


food for thought: if the new challenger was like the corvette or viper with nothing available but pure performance, the SRTs price would be much higher than it is, and there would be a lot less of them out there. but, by offering a cheaper, more economic version that will sell in huge volumes, they can lower the price for the performance models and make more of them. same thing with mustangs. 70% of the mustangs out there are V6s.

so, if the guy wants a V6, let him buy a V6 and thank him for buying one of the economy versions because that allows you to go buy the SRT version.

Fuck. at least they are Making this car unlike the charger concept from 1999 that got shitcan'd

[TrueblueR/T]

Looked at a SRT-8 Challenger the other day,,overall I liked the car but the cheap wanna be carbon fiber decal on the hood sucked big time..

[BAD]

Not to start any shit, but why buy a "muscle car" with out the muscle? Its like buying a v6 mustang. It just screams poser.

because you like the cars looks and don't want or have the need for the v8. Not everyone wants a V8

[djRavage]

because you like the cars looks and don't want or have the need for the v8. Not everyone wants a V8

exactly....and since i'm keeping my Dakota R/T, i don't need TWO gas guzzlers...

[Fuller]

Not to start any shit, but why buy a "muscle car" with out the muscle? Its like buying a v6 mustang. It just screams poser. I mean hell would you go and date an aids infested blonde hooker?, just to say Well she is still a blonde? You might as well put 20's on a ford escort.

Not everyone needs to go fast. Hes already stated 4 times this will be his daily driver. My girlfriend drives an 06 Mustang V6, its probobly faster then most of the guys trucks who are complaining about DJ not buying a V8 :jester:

[TurboBlew]

Not to start any shit, but why buy a "muscle car" with out the muscle? Its like buying a v6 mustang. It just screams poser. I mean hell would you go and date an aids infested blonde hooker?, just to say Well she is still a blonde? You might as well put 20's on a ford escort.

lol.. dont know about dating hookers with aids but otherwise I agree.
I had the "cheapened" versions of flagship cars.

[TurboBlew]

because you like the cars looks and don't want or have the need for the v8. Not everyone wants a V8

looks are only skin deep. In reality its whats on the inside that keeps you happy and interested in a vehicle.
Look at it this way... youd have to be a full blown sucker to buy a new car with a V6. Honda Accords and Camrys come with V6s.
I guess if driving around looking like Ned Flanders while getting good mpgs is important... :D

[TurboBlew]

Not everyone needs to go fast. Hes already stated 4 times this will be his daily driver. My girlfriend drives an 06 Mustang V6, its probobly faster then most of the guys trucks who are complaining about DJ not buying a V8 :jester:

dude if youre trying to introduce evidence that V6s are cool... never begin your arguement with "My girlfriend drives a V6 moootang".

I had a girlfriend that had a v6 mootang. It was all trimmed out with GT bodywork & wheels. I opened the hood and started yelling at her to call the cops because someone stole 2 cylinders. She ignorantly asked "Whats the big deal??". I borrowed a friends cobra to let her drive it. The look on her face was priceless.

[96BlkDak]

I had a 01 TA and a buddy his wife had 3.8 Firebird. basically the same car but once she had a ride in mine she made him promise never to buy her anything with less than a V8 (and leather) again. and our average MPG per tank was with in 2 mpg of each other so......

[midnite]

i dont see why not.. i would try damn ahrd to get teh v8, but get whqat you canafford and be happy!!!!

[Dakudaman]

Do you know what you can get for $42k if you buy an original Challenger! And it will only go up in value.
I too would buy a V6 if that is what I wanted, not so say that a SRT8 wouldn't be more fun, but for another $20K I could buy a Original running Challenger that needed cosmetics and have both worlds. So I say to Turboblew on this one STFU!.....done!

Ps: I just got a Nav system it cost $299 yes there are $800 units out there but they both get you from point A to point B!

[Mystake]

dude if youre trying to introduce evidence that V6s are cool... never begin your arguement with "My girlfriend drives a V6 moootang".

I had a girlfriend that had a v6 mootang. It was all trimmed out with GT bodywork & wheels. I opened the hood and started yelling at her to call the cops because someone stole 2 cylinders. She ignorantly asked "Whats the big deal??". I borrowed a friends cobra to let her drive it. The look on her face was priceless.


Bahahahahahahahahahahaha

My brother has a V6 mustang, 1999. Why? It's decently fun (stick) and it gets good mileage. i mean, V6 deserves SOME credit... I said some.

[hwystar]

I just looked at a v6 that came into out local dealership. Over $30,000 CDN for that car up here and in typical Chrysler fashion they whimped out on the interior from what the concept had and put all the same shit that is in the 300 and charger, Same dash with the endless miles of flat boring plastic. I rented a magnum for a weekend 2 yrs ago and this was just like sitting in that POS. The concept had a very similar interior to the original and really how har would id have been to go with something more similar to that then just grab off the shelf parts and make them fit the Challenger.

Hell the inside of my Dakota looks more like a Challenger than this car does. I agree with Dakudaman and just by an original again. I know everything is realitive as far as prices and wges go but my parents first house was 2000 sqft and was only $19000! friggin mortgage payment was locked in at $50/month for 25 yrs.