Wiring Diagrams

[trevor]

Could you please give me a wiring diagram of your kit that you sent me? Currently we're trying to figure out why the high/lows are backwards to the indicator in the dash.

Also, the module that is in the kit...my brother believes it to be a 'solid state' module. This also comes with its own fused power and ground...so why would you not have explained that to me before I bought the relay kit, because if it is actually a 'solid state' module, that means a relay kit is pointless?

I'm nearing my fuse with this damn kit.

[HIDKitsWarehous]

Please see this thread about the relay kit: http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50764

This is the diagram for the bixenon:
http://www.hidkitswarehouse.com/images/hi_lo.jpg

As far as the high/lows being backwards, is it just the indicator lights that are backwards or the lights as well? I would check the harness to ensure that the high and low wires are not reversed.
As for the module, I don't know what a 'solid state' module is. What you received is our relay kit, that is how all relay kits that I have seen for the kits are. I've gotten samples from many different manufacturers and they are exactly the same.
What exactly would make the relay kit pointless? The relay kit was something you expressed you needed, it was not something I reccommended.

[trevor]

As far as the high/lows being backwards, is it just the indicator lights that are backwards or the lights as well? I would check the harness to ensure that the high and low wires are not reversed.
As for the module, I don't know what a 'solid state' module is. What you received is our relay kit, that is how all relay kits that I have seen for the kits are. I've gotten samples from many different manufacturers and they are exactly the same.
What exactly would make the relay kit pointless? The relay kit was something you expressed you needed, it was not something I reccommended.

Thank you

What colour are the high/low wires in your kit? The hi/lows worked fine before I changed to this kit, so I know its something I've done, or in the kit. The lights change from hi to low simultaneously, but the indicator in the dash indicates when the dims are on, and the indicator is off when the highs are on. I believe that the lights are opposite the truck, because in the switch, you can 'flash' the highs without actually going to the highs, but right now, i am able to 'flash' the dims...if you know what i mean.

The additional relay kit was pointless that I purchased, because I was not aware that the kit that came with the set already had a relay in it...like your diagram clearly shows. My brother believes that that is not a simple relay, but a 'module' like a module that most cars come with factory. Which is more intelligent than a simple relay.

[trevor]

To look at that diagram again, we had that all figured out already...you wouldn't happen to have a more in depth wiring diagram...which shows wire colours and what wires get ground and so forth?

[trevor]

I came upon this diagram in a thread here: http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49463

http://www.hidkitswarehouse.com/images/90049007.jpg

Now my 9007 plug has:
Left pin - blue
Center pin - white
Right pin - brown

Is mine correct, or wired for the 9004 bulbs?

[HIDKitsWarehous]

Given what you described as being able to flash the low beams, I would first try swapping the high and low beams. If I am understanding the problem correctly, it sounds like those two may be swapped.

[trevor]

We tried switching the pins, which oddly changed nothing. Once again...what colour are the highs and what colour are the lows that are in your harness...i have a blue, white and brown.

And also...would you have a more in depth wiring diagram...the one you posted here just labels what the items are, and doesn't show what wire does what.

One more thing...why would we have to run a resistor in the passenger side light harness (truck side)? The HID's will not change from highs to lows without a resistance in that socket (usually a bulb)? Is this the problem that I have heard other people asking why their bulbs do not change? (no audible click?)

And I still don't understand why you didn't explain to me that the kit had a relay in it already (which is labeled in the diagram you posted)...

[HIDKitsWarehous]

I don't have a wiring diagram with the specific colors for the wires, we've never had to get down to that level before on the bixenon kits and have different variations. We've only dealt with the pins. Out of curiosity, does the bixenon kit you received match the bixenon kit in the diagram I posted?

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're describing here:
"One more thing...why would we have to run a resistor in the passenger side light harness (truck side)? The HID's will not change from highs to lows without a resistance in that socket (usually a bulb)?"

Are you speaking of the extra relay kit you ordered?
Can you please help me understand how you have the kit currently installed?
What were the modifications your brother did to your wiring to fix the DRL problem? Is it possible that this may have affected the way the kit is functioning? Given that you said when you reversed the high and low pins on the harness without any change, I'm guessing that the high and low pins may be crossed (for lack of a better term). I've had a similar situation in the past where the high and low were wired together and cause the high beam indicator to be on when it wasn't supposed to. This was remedied through the use of a diode where the wires were 'crossed' to ensure that power was not leaking through from high to low and vice versa.

As for the relay kit, I honestly did not pay attention to the specifics of what you were ordering. All I knew was that you seemed to know (or your brother did) what you wanted. You asked for a relay kit along with your order which I said I could supply but suggested that it wasn't necessary.

If the 'extra' relay kit is the issue here, I will be glad to refund your money if you want to send it back.

I personally tested your kit before shipping to try to ensure for myself that there were no issues with the kit since you are an international customer and returns/shipping would be a hassle and I wanted to do what I could to avoid that. I know the kit was working properly. (I tested w/ a power supply lighting both high and low beam functionality) I'm worried about whether the DRL modifications or simply the fact that you have DRL may be an issue here.

[trevor]

Out of curiosity, does the bixenon kit you received match the bixenon kit in the diagram I posted?

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're describing here:
"One more thing...why would we have to run a resistor in the passenger side light harness (truck side)? The HID's will not change from highs to lows without a resistance in that socket (usually a bulb)?"

Are you speaking of the extra relay kit you ordered?
Can you please help me understand how you have the kit currently installed?
What were the modifications your brother did to your wiring to fix the DRL problem? Is it possible that this may have affected the way the kit is functioning? Given that you said when you reversed the high and low pins on the harness without any change, I'm guessing that the high and low pins may be crossed (for lack of a better term). I've had a similar situation in the past where the high and low were wired together and cause the high beam indicator to be on when it wasn't supposed to. This was remedied through the use of a diode where the wires were 'crossed' to ensure that power was not leaking through from high to low and vice versa.

As for the relay kit, I honestly did not pay attention to the specifics of what you were ordering. All I knew was that you seemed to know (or your brother did) what you wanted. You asked for a relay kit along with your order which I said I could supply but suggested that it wasn't necessary.

If the 'extra' relay kit is the issue here, I will be glad to refund your money if you want to send it back.

I personally tested your kit before shipping to try to ensure for myself that there were no issues with the kit since you are an international customer and returns/shipping would be a hassle and I wanted to do what I could to avoid that. I know the kit was working properly. (I tested w/ a power supply lighting both high and low beam functionality) I'm worried about whether the DRL modifications or simply the fact that you have DRL may be an issue here.

Thanks for getting back...sorry if I'm sounding harsh, im just trying to say it straight forward to get this sorted out.

The connector I have has:
Left pin - blue
Center pin - white
Right pin - brown

While the one diagrammed above has:
Left pin - red
Center pin - black
Right pin - blue

As of right now we have not used the extra relay kit that you sent...pretty much ignore that you sent that to me.

Now, we've wired it up exactly as it should be with no relay kit. Without a bulb (or a resistor) in the passenger side truck harness, the HID's wouldn't switch from Hi/low. If we put the halogen bulb in, it lights up the bulb, and works the HID's just fine. So we replaced the halogen bulb with a resistor that came in the relay kit (so i wont return that, because I have used one resistor from it)

Now, to disable the DRL's we cut a wire that comes from the DRL module. By cutting this wire the HID's work fine, but I dont have the brights indicator in the dash. To fix this, we tried reconnecting the wire we cut, and grounded the switch on the parking brake. (putting the parking brake on shuts the DRL's off). Now that we've done this, we have the indicator back working in the dash (plus my parking brake lights are on). Now with the indicator back on we've noticed that the HID's are opposite the indicator.

That's where I'm at now...the main problem is trying to figure out why the lights move opposite the indicator in the dash.

[trevor]

Ok, i got this kit working (but still have to work out DRL's)

It needed a 1 ohm resistor in the unused headlight plug, to get high/lows to work.

and I got the backwards light sorted out:
I got the plug with:
Left pin - blue
Center pin - white
Right pin - brown

Properly wired is:
Left pin - white
Center pin - blue
Right pin - brown

[HIDKitsWarehous]

I'm glad you got it working, I'm still trying to understand what was keeping your kit from working (besides the pins).
The 1 ohm resistor is something new to me, I've never heard of a customer needing that.

[trevor]

I'm glad you got it working, I'm still trying to understand what was keeping your kit from working (besides the pins).
The 1 ohm resistor is something new to me, I've never heard of a customer needing that.

Has anybody complained about there not being much difference between their high/lows? We kind of stumbled on it, when testing which pins had power in high with a test light.

Without it, there is some movement in the beam, but no noise from the movement. With it in there, there is an obvious difference, and can hear the bulbs distenctly move.

Also, sometimes one bulb wont fire up...is this a 'break in' type thing that will go away? This morning the first time one didnt fire up, but the next two times i started them (cold) they were just fine.

[HIDKitsWarehous]

I'll let others answer if they are having problems.

Your bulb issue sounds like it might be a break in situation. Through testing of the bulbs, sometimes we're able to avoid this by the time it gets to the customer but unfortunately not all bulbs are tested. Give it about a week's worth of use to see if it gets better, if not, the bulb are probably bad and I can replace them.

[Karas3434]

i didnt notice any difference in light output between my hi/low beams but there is a very noticable movement of the bulb when switched. i havent really tested mine drivin at night yet but it seems that the hi beam setting (when dish light is on) seems to be a more concentrated beam and is what i plan on using when drivin.

[HIDKitsWarehous]

The high beam functionality is more designed for passing inspections and not for functionality. You should not expect it to function exactly as your normal high beams do. The movement of bulb is to shift the light enough to pass as 'high beams' for inspections.

[Karas3434]

The high beam functionality is more designed for passing inspections and not for functionality. You should not expect it to function exactly as your normal high beams do. The movement of bulb is to shift the light enough to pass as 'high beams' for inspections.

yup thats what i figured. i was sayin that the beam pattern was different with the hi/low. seemed to me the hi beam setting accordin to my truck seemed to have a more concentrated beam of light then the low setting.

[Karas3434]

The high beam functionality is more designed for passing inspections and not for functionality. You should not expect it to function exactly as your normal high beams do. The movement of bulb is to shift the light enough to pass as 'high beams' for inspections.

yup thats what i figured. i was sayin that the beam pattern was different with the hi/low. seemed to me the hi beam setting accordin to my truck seemed to have a more concentrated beam of light then the low setting.

[trevor]

I'll let others answer if they are having problems.

Your bulb issue sounds like it might be a break in situation. Through testing of the bulbs, sometimes we're able to avoid this by the time it gets to the customer but unfortunately not all bulbs are tested. Give it about a week's worth of use to see if it gets better, if not, the bulb are probably bad and I can replace them.

The last couple times I've turned them on, they've both lit up fine, so it was like you said, a break in situation.

[trevor]

It turns out that I'm still having troubles with only one lighting up. I always check them and about 50% of the time (im guessing) they both light up. They seem to not light up randomly between the two lights. Like today my bro came to pick me up and only the drivers side was lit...where can we go from here?

[HIDKitsWarehous]

Please describe how you have everything wired up right now so I can try to help troubleshoot. If you feel that the kits may be bad, you may need to send them back to me so I can test them out for you and then replace parts as needed, given what I find to be defective.

[trevor]

Please describe how you have everything wired up right now so I can try to help troubleshoot. If you feel that the kits may be bad, you may need to send them back to me so I can test them out for you and then replace parts as needed, given what I find to be defective.

They're wired normally...i still have yet to fix my DRL problem. It seems to be the passenger side one that is having the most trouble. :huh:

[HIDKitsWarehous]

So the DRL is completely out of the picture? They're getting 12v and not running at lower voltage at any time?

If they're wired normally, I really can't tell what the problem is this way. I would need to get the kit back to me so I can test them and let you know what we find.

[trevor]

So the DRL is completely out of the picture? They're getting 12v and not running at lower voltage at any time?

If they're wired normally, I really can't tell what the problem is this way. I would need to get the kit back to me so I can test them and let you know what we find.

yup, they're on 12v power all the time my truck is running...no half voltage.

The last few times I've turned them on they work just fine...is it normal for them to the odd time not to light up, or should they work every time?

[HIDKitsWarehous]

The only time that they should act up is during the burn-in period.. How long have you had them running?

[trevor]

From approximately April 25...the past 3 weeks they have been turned on for 1.5 hours a day.

How long is said break in period?

[HIDKitsWarehous]

Break in is no where near that long. Usually about 30 minutes up to 1 hour of use is fine.