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Blown99CCR/T
06-07-2004, 02:15 PM
Who all on here is running a Paxton supercharger on their Dak in here?
I'm looking for some other people who have the kits.
We have just ordered the kit from Sam at So Cal (EXTREMELY happy with the customer service btw.....VERY patient thorough all the questions and decision period....much props Sam!!)
It will be replacing the Powerdyne that we have on there now (which will be for sale after the Paxton goes on).
We just want to get a good knowledge base on tap and see what little tips and tricks anyone has discovered!
Thanks in advance!
RTDAKOTA59
06-18-2004, 02:35 AM
Hey i was wondering how much you will be asking for the powerdyne
CYCLONE_06
06-18-2004, 08:49 PM
Hmmm... I hear that the Paxton Novi 2000 is the best kit for the Dakota. The second best is their sister company Vortech. Thats the one I have. Its not installed yet, so I really cant answer you, but its supposed to be almost as good as the paxton. Both are supposed to make really good power.
~CYCLONE_06
wildman77
06-19-2004, 12:48 AM
I have a Paxton SN93, I Love it but I NEED MORE MORE MORE......OH SORRY...Getting carried away. It turned me into a Boost Junky. I am about to get me a Novi 2000 and put this SN 93 on my 93 Dak 4X4, it should boost the 318 pretty well.
wildman77
06-19-2004, 12:51 AM
I am also interested in the Powerdine. Let us know about the price. :stick:
WicKed R/T
06-19-2004, 01:41 AM
hey michael, how much boost you running? j/w
wildman77
06-19-2004, 04:21 AM
hey michael, how much boost you running? j/w
I was running a solid 7psi very seldom I would see 8psi. My belt is slipping now and I am seeing 6psi. When I get a chance I will tighten the belt cause I miss the power.
WicKed R/T
06-19-2004, 04:24 AM
Just get a novi2000 and make that burnout that you did go for about 50ft longer. :mullet: I hear there's a little mod you can do on the 2000 to where you can see about 10lbs without changing pulleys. :drool: :woot:
wildman77
06-20-2004, 01:00 AM
Just get a novi2000 and make that burnout that you did go for about 50ft longer. :mullet: I hear there's a little mod you can do on the 2000 to where you can see about 10lbs without changing pulleys. :drool: :woot:They say they have an orphice plate in the discharge side of the charger you could remove. Look at this website for more info on the S/C's www.superchargerhelp.com
Novi2kRT
06-21-2004, 08:56 AM
Paxton provides a restrictor for the inlet of the blower that helps tame the inrush and smooth out the "hit" when the blower spools up.
Removing it does gain a couple pounds of boost or so, but a person has to remember one important thing.
It is always extremely easy to add air into an engine, but.. it is not as easy to add the appropriate amount of fuel needed for the added air.
As a Paxton distributor and the original driving force behind the Paxton kit being developed, I will admit that Paxton does setup the kits to be conservative and add ample amounts of fuel for the boost levels as designed, but I have also seen gaskets blow when the restrictors are removed without recurving adding fuel.
All in all, the Paxton setup is by far the best designed setup for the R/T's and Magnum Dakota's, primarily based on fuel system design and the efficiency of the head unit.
I can't stress the point of fuel enough though.. more air MUST have more fuel, and it must be delivered smoothly and consistantly.
wildman77
06-22-2004, 01:46 AM
Novi2kRT, What price can you do on a Novi 2000 for a 98 5.9 Dak? I have the PaxtaMap system. Is this good enough for the Novi 2000?
Novi2kRT
06-26-2004, 02:54 AM
The setup will come with a updated version of it, basically everything will end up being replaced with higher volume and updated parts in the fuel system.
Shoot me an email directly for pricing.
rcvowell@hawaii.rr.com
wykdrt
10-16-2004, 12:06 AM
Paxton provides a restrictor for the inlet of the blower that helps tame the inrush and smooth out the "hit" when the blower spools up.
Removing it does gain a couple pounds of boost or so, but a person has to remember one important thing.
It is always extremely easy to add air into an engine, but.. it is not as easy to add the appropriate amount of fuel needed for the added air.
As a Paxton distributor and the original driving force behind the Paxton kit being developed, I will admit that Paxton does setup the kits to be conservative and add ample amounts of fuel for the boost levels as designed, but I have also seen gaskets blow when the restrictors are removed without recurving adding fuel.
All in all, the Paxton setup is by far the best designed setup for the R/T's and Magnum Dakota's, primarily based on fuel system design and the efficiency of the head unit.
I can't stress the point of fuel enough though.. more air MUST have more fuel, and it must be delivered smoothly and consistantly.
Could you just update to FMS 24# injectors over the stock ones and get a set of Cometic head gaskets?
Novi2kRT
10-16-2004, 09:31 PM
that isn't a good solution at all.
You have nothing to provide more volume through the lines with that so you aren't solving the fuel pressure drop problem. The other problem is that you are now running extremely rich on idle cruising circuit since you can't remap the coputer running the injectors.
As for cometic gaskets.. head gaskets are the CHEAP weak link. If you have un breakable head gaskets.. something else WILL break.. ie.. rods, pistons, rings.. even at 15 or psi I WON'T run cometic gaskets in mine for that reason.. I am still on OE stock bottom end and need a weak link that ISN'T in the short block.
The only real answer is to have a tunable fuel system, that doesn't just spike the living crap outta the fuel pressure. In essence something where added fuel is added from seperate injectors when needed. That way you can tune how much goes in and when.
Or.. a standalone setup like what I run where I have 8 big injectors that can more than handle the output for the engine and can fine tune the fuel curves down to a gnats hair of accuracy.
Their are a million ways to "make it work".. but only a couple ways to do it right.
Supraman88T
10-16-2004, 10:48 PM
Are there any Piggy-Back systems out for the Dakota? If you hade something like that you could get larger injectors/Fuel pump/ FPR and crank up the boost. Well at least that works well on my Supra. Is there anything out there to tune A/F ratios? :confused:
Novi2kRT
10-17-2004, 04:53 AM
piggy backs dohn work for beans on these trucks because the PCM's kinda learn they are their, and correct for their corrections..
Evilsizer
02-07-2005, 06:50 AM
i feel all left out since i dont have an R/T. Any chance of seeing a novi1000/2000 for us 4.7 guys?
WicKed R/T
02-07-2005, 07:04 AM
Old thread.....but i believe paxton only offers a s/c for the 4.7 durango. Not sure why they didnt do one for the dakota. :huh:
SinCity R/T
02-07-2005, 07:26 AM
i feel all left out since i dont have an R/T. Any chance of seeing a novi1000/2000 for us 4.7 guys?
I dunno why the 4.7L Novi 2000 kit would be Durango-only, the engine bay and PCM should be exactly the same. I'd recommend talking to someone like www.gsmotorsports.com or www.southeastperformance.com about the Paxton supercharger system. I know I've seen 4.7L Owners with Paxtons out there on the forums...
WicKed R/T
02-07-2005, 07:34 AM
http://www.paxtonauto.com/systems.asp?Action=GetRecord&ID=7 Here is their listing for Dodge trucks/SUVs
Novi2kRT
02-07-2005, 08:04 AM
when I set my truck up.. the Paxton for Dakota kit didn't exist..
I based mine off the Durango 5.2L and reported what needed to be changed to make it 5.9 Dakota friendly..
I am assuming that the same could be done for the 4.7L as well.. with a bonus that the overall tune wouldn't need to be changed. I see no reason a Dango kit wouln't work on a Kota other than having to maybe move a lil A/C stuff around.
Where there is a will.. there is BOOST!!!!!!!!!!!! :drive: :banana2:
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