Gen1 Motor Swap

[ScatDak]

Well today is 5:30 pm Pacific on May 13th . Last night my Motor Man calls me and tells me that the 318 is finally finished. So this evening I take my Gen1 over to his shop to have the 318 installed. All I can say is WOW the motor looks Bad @$$. Monday my Digital Camera will be back from Sony, Warranty Work on the Digi Cam, But I will tell you this the Eddy Heads and Intake along with the Hemi Orange Block look spectactcular. I will take some pics of the motor install, I can't friggen wait.

Here the list off all the goodies inside the motor

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/MikesMotor001.jpg

CLE-MS540P10 MAIN BEARING SET $48.69


FEM-8-2130CP10 CONNECTING ROD BEARING SET $41.39


SUM-G3120 FUEL LINE FLTRD W/GAUGE-ADJUST $35.95


FPP-1008 HEAD GASKET EACH $63.76


FPP-1213 INTAKE MANIFOLD SET $16.88


MRG-5998 ULTRA SEAL OVERHAUL KIT SBM $99.95


SLP-224-4166V HV OIL PUMP SBM $45.95


SLP-E-178K030 RING SET $40.99


CCA-7956-16 PUSHRODS $133.69


CCA-822-16 LIFTERS HYDRAULIC $85.88


ESP-6123CB CONNECTING RODS $289.95


UEM-KB399030-8 KB PISTON SET OF 8 $296.39


ARP-144-4002 HEAD STUD KIT $93.88


DCC-5007611 SBM V/C PKG BLACK WRINKLE $99.88


EDL-7576 EDELBROCK MANIFOLD AIR GAP SBM $239.88


MSD-32749 MSD 8.5 WIRE SET $71.88


MSD-6420 IGN CONTROL 6AL W/REV LIMITER $205.88


MSD-8534 SMALL MOPAR DIST $213.88


SUM-56330HS BOLT KIT-STAINLESS SBM $34.95


HLY-0-9379 DP CARB 750CFM $445.95


HOK-5803HKR DODGE DAKOTA HDR V-8 $369.95


CCA-20-243-4 0.501 int./0.501 exh. lift LS 110 CAM SHAFT $123.69


CRN-69993-1 CRANE TIMING CHAIN SET $86.99


EDL-60779 EDELBROCK SINGLE CYLINDER HEAD COMP $669.50


EDL-60779 EDELBROCK SINGLE CYLINDER HEAD COMP $669.50

Grand Total 4525.28

[ScatDak]

Here are some pics of the Motor. It wont be going in this week because I found out thats my truck is due for CA SMOG so I we put the motor back in and Tommorrow its headed to the Smog Station.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/MikesMotor004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/MikesMotor003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/MikesMotor002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/MikesMotor001.jpg

Hopefully it will be in and running by the end of June

[KREWZER]

i hate u....i mean, good for u!!! awesome dude, that thing is gonna rock some socks!!

[ucimaplaya2]

damn thats nice! so what are you going to do when you are due for another smog test later on? thats a very nice first gen you have there too. i like the color.

[FlameRD2000]

That engine should be in my Ramcharger Mike! I'm telling mom you stole it from me!!!!


I really hate you now!!

[rtgrouchman]

That's just Bad Ass Man!! You gotta post some vids of it in action when you get 'er done! :drool: :mullet:

[ScatDak]

That motor should be in my Ramcharger Mike! I'm telling mom you stole it from me!!!!


I really hate you now!!


Just like the little brat you are. :nana: Guys if you dont know FlameRD2000 is my Little @$$H0l3 of a Brother.


Thanks for the compliments Guys.

[WUWU20]

Just like the little brat you are. :nana: Guys if you dont know FlameRD2000 is my Little @$$H0l3 of a Brother.


Thanks for the compliments Guys.

Thats gonna be the shit right there!! But, if I had a little brother, I would have gave him the motor. :nono: :nana:

[FlameRD2000]

Thats gonna be the shit right there!! But, if I had a little brother, I would have gave him the motor. :nono: :nana:


Thanks! :yourock: Now just convince him that I need it more, especially sine where I live we don't have no stinking SMOG laws :nana: !

oh yeah, one thing my brother didn't mention.. if you noticed the date was called that the engine was done was the before his birthday..Lucky OLD MAN!!!! :nana:

[WUWU20]

Thanks! :yourock: Now just convince him that I need it more, especially sine where I live we don't have no stinking SMOG laws :nana: !

oh yeah, one thing my brother didn't mention.. if you noticed the date was called that the engine was done was the before his birthday..Lucky OLD MAN!!!! :nana:

Maybe he should just give you the truck, with the motor installed, what a great guy he would be. :biggthump

[FlameRD2000]

Maybe he should just give you the truck, with the motor installed, what a great guy he would be. :biggthump

To be honest, I'd rather have his '92, I'm partial to Flame Red, but I definatly wouldn't pass on his latest engine.. since it would fit OH so nicely in my nice big engine compartment of my Ramcharger

[WUWU20]

To be honest, I'd rather have his '92, I'm partial to Flame Red, but I definatly wouldn't pass on his latest engine.. since it would fit OH so nicely in my nice big engine compartment of my Ramcharger

I'd like to build a Plymouth Trail Blazer (I think thats right) the ones that had cloth tops, 2wd, lowered, yea! Been thinking for the last 4 years about doing a Dakota, shorten the frame, cut the top off, graft the bed to the cab, making it a roadster.

[FlameRD2000]

You were close close, its the Trail Duster.. they are getting hard to find these days that's for sure.

[realdeal7369]

trying to sneak in a v8 while i was'nt looking huh? bastard. lol looks good man. think i can borrow it for a while? ill break it in for ya. btw what about your next smog test man. ? how you going to snake around that one? inspections too. they never put a v8 in that year dak. sux its cali too. they are real ass busters about that too.

:drive:

[ScatDak]

It was simple I just smogged it. So I have 2 years worth of PLAY TIME
after that I will Register it in TEXAS so I wont have to fiddle with Smog Laws

[1bdazzdak]

Ok, I almost drown in my own drool there for a minute. That thing is gonna be bad ass, I dont knwo what else to say.

[ScatDak]

Motor is out and we are putting it in Today

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Barney006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Barney007.jpg

[FlameRD2000]

BUTTHEAD!!!



Looks pretty good...now all you have to do is get me my engine for my Ramcharger!

[ScatDak]

Its in

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Barney011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Barney010.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Barney009.jpg

[WUWU20]

That looks damn nice!!

[lilRed318]

What headers are you using bro ?!? I may be in the market for some new headers soon ! BTW that thing looks great :biggthump

[ScatDak]

Hooker Super Comps the fit quite nicely. The Passenger side dropped right in, the Drivers side we had to drop the rack and reroute the tranny lines but once that was done pretty simple install. For those who want to do this swap I recommend the Schumacher Install kit its well worth the money makes for a straight foward swap.

[KREWZER]

again, i hate u...i wanna see some wheelie pics now :mullet:
btw, did Sam Cler ever send u a PM?

[lilRed318]

I used there mounts when I dropped the 400 into my other dakato ... made the install easy as hell ... I didn't want to pay $300+ for there oil pan though so I went with the mopar BB truck pan and just took a 8lb hammer and fire to the crossmember and made it all play nice !

are those the $320 Hooker headers ?!?

[ScatDak]

Update Getting really Close

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Kotachange008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Kotachange009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Kotachange010.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Kotachange011.jpg

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[WUWU20]

Man that water pump is close. Isn't there a different one thats shorter? I know when I put one on my Shelby Dakota is different then the others and there was maybe about 1 inch more room then yours but hey if its working...RUN IT!! Looks like alot of fun is headed your way with that one. :woot:

[ScatDak]

That is a Shelby Dak Water Pump but I think the Shelby Motors sat differently in the engine compartment

[WUWU20]

That is a Shelby Dak Water Pump but I think the Shelby Motors sat differently in the engine compartment

I'd say that is the difference. Thats really the only tight spot, theres pretty good room in there other than that.

[Dakota_T438]

Yea the water pumps do run close to the radiator with V8's in these trucks. I built my owm motor mounts for my truck and actually had enough room to run a belt drive fan on it for a while. That thing looks good man I hope it all works out good for ya.

[Edwin87]

ScatDak,

That is one killer engine and a clean install.

What size radiator is needed to cool that engine?

How much more room would there be for water pump clearance if you had the Gen II sheetmetal in front?

Ed

[ScatDak]

Thanks for the compliments it was a adventure nonetheless.

That radiator is from a Shelby Dakota. Its measures 18 1/4"l x 25 5/8"w x 1 1/4"t
Single Row Tank Inlet is 2" x 26 3/8" and the Tank Outlet is 2" x 26 3/8". The Gen2 front ends give a additional 3 inches of clearance from my measurements.

[87DakBuilder]

Scat,

Have you gotten it running yet, I'm very curious to see how it all pans out, I've got my 390 stroker at the machine shop now, and I'm expecting it back in a few weeks. I'm pretty sure I'm going to change out my front radiator support to the GenII to complete my Gen II swap just to add the room needed for the additional 2 cylendars. Looks great, can't wait to see how it all turns out.

Jay

[ScatDak]

Yes its up and running since July of last year. Everything works like a charm.

The extra room is nice but I think it would ruin the look of my Gen1.

[87DakBuilder]

What did you do for a cooling fan? I'm pretty sure you are running electric, just wondering if you have any pics?

Jay

[ScatDak]

Im using a derale pusher fan that has a 3500cfm rating. I have driven it in 100+ degree weather and the hottest its has ever gotten was 230 that not really considering the temp outside and it was stop and crawl traffic. If you convert it too a Gen2 front end then I would run a Black Magic 210 fan its a perfect fit for the Gen2 Radiator. Pics I dont think I have one of the Fan installed.

Here is a pic at the track

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/IMG_0862.jpg

Here is a small Video of it going down the track.

http://media.putfile.com/Sacramento-Mopar-Magic-006

Ignore the Wifey she thought I lost. I had atleast 5 cars on that Challenger by the end of the 1/4

[dakotaballer]

i had a 318 im my gen 1 that was a beast

[realdeal7369]

Im using a derale pusher fan that has a 3500cfm rating. I have driven it in 100+ degree weather and the hottest its has ever gotten was 230 that not really considering the temp outside and it was stop and crawl traffic. If you convert it too a Gen2 front end then I would run a Black Magic 210 fan its a perfect fit for the Gen2 Radiator. Pics I dont think I have one of the Fan installed.

Here is a pic at the track

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/IMG_0862.jpg

Here is a small Video of it going down the track.

http://media.putfile.com/Sacramento-Mopar-Magic-006

Ignore the Wifey she thought I lost. I had atleast 5 cars on that Challenger by the end of the 1/4

ever think about running a dual 11" or a dual 10" SPAL fan? draws less amps that that black magic fan.

btw man, slicks help.. :jester:

[ScatDak]

ever think about running a dual 11" or a dual 10" SPAL fan? draws less amps that that black magic fan.

btw man, slicks help.. :jester:

Yeah Yeah Yeah, But you must also remember thats my trucks maiden voyage down the track. As for running dual fans the Gen1 nose wouldn't allow me to run a dual fan setup.

[Dakota_T438]

You can run dual fans I have them on mine one on the front of the radiator and one one ther rear of it. I did have a belt drive fan on my truck at one time. My motor sits way back in the engine bay the distributor cap it about a 1/2 inch from the firewall.

[ScatDak]

Hate to tell you there is no way I can possibly run a second fan on my Gen1.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Kotachange016.jpg

[Dakota_T438]

Oh I know that I was just saying that I have my motor set up in my truck different than you and that is how I was able to do it. You have a good looking truck there man and a lot of hard work I know what its like doing it.

[Flat Black]

I know this is an older post. Am working on a 318 now to put into my 87. What did you use for headers? And was that the stock oil pan? Also motor mounts? make your own or a kit?

[GoFastGray]

I know this is an older post. Am working on a 318 now to put into my 87. What did you use for headers? And was that the stock oil pan? Also motor mounts? make your own or a kit?

I want to say he has Hedman Longtube headers?
Send Mike a PM, he probably won't catch this thread.
he hasn't been on in a while...so don't expect him to respond right away either.
EDIT: He was on yesterday. Send him a PM :D

[Dakota_T438]

The headers are the same ones I use they are Hooker Super Comp part # 5803. All I used was a factory truck resr sump pan on my motor, but my motor sits further back in the engine compartment that Scat's does I fabricated my own motor mounts. He used the Schumacker conversion mounts.

[GoFastGray]

The headers are the same ones I use they are Hooker Super Comp part # 5803. All I used was a factory truck resr sump pan on my motor, but my motor sits further back in the engine compartment that Scat's does I fabricated my own motor mounts. He used the Schumacker conversion mounts.

Hooker! Yea, that's what Mike has :D

[Flat Black]

thanks