T4 turbo ordered...remote in progress

[LANOLIN]

So I just won a T4 turbo, waste gate, and BOV on ebay for $380 on ebay. I haven't recevied them yet but I figure I'd start this thread in the mean time as another reference for a remote turbo install. I will be customizing everything myself and have minimal welding experience. I just bought a lincoln welder with a mig attachment. As soon as the parts come in. I will post pics and stats of the progress. For everyone who has already done this mod, please let me know if/when I fuck up. I plan on using my 75 shot NOS in addition to the turbo so any info on this combo would be appreciated. Thanx bros. Also, I was thinking of tapping into an existing pressurized oil line instead of using an oil pump (if available). I need to know if this is possible. The turbo will be goin into the bed of the truck along with the relocation of the NOS. Lata dudes. I hjave had a fifth of Dr. Jack Daniels tongiuht so if any of this comes out jacked up I apologize. Peeeeesce.. :banana2:

[FuryUs]

You can tap into a pressurized line to fee the turbo, but you'll need a pump to return the oil back to the pan.

[LANOLIN]

I'm new to this so what stats will I need for the oil pump? Also, any stats on the empeller and all other ratios will be appreciated. My roomate is playing the durms next to me right meow and one of his sticks just busted me across the grill/. Let me now lamb facers.

[4bydak]

Watch Your Compresion Ratio The Stock 3.9 Can Only Handle So Much Using The Nos And Turbo Will Destroy That Engine In About A Mile, The Socal Web Site Will Tell U What U Can Handle

[rt99three60]

i wouldnt feel save running a decent sized turbo and a 75 shot of N20 on a 3.9 just run some low boost

[chris4x4]

I would say that the best mod for running a turbo and a 75 shot of N2O would be a shrapnel blanket over the motor for when it blows up. :biggthump
Seriously though, with those mods you should consider decompressing the heads, installing a forged crank and rods, and a bluprinted re build of the motor, And a free flowing exhaust.

[Slow97dakota]

So I just won a T4 turbo, waste gate, and BOV on ebay for $380 on ebay. I haven't recevied them yet but I figure I'd start this thread in the mean time as another reference for a remote turbo install. I will be customizing everything myself and have minimal welding experience. I just bought a lincoln welder with a mig attachment. As soon as the parts come in. I will post pics and stats of the progress. For everyone who has already done this mod, please let me know if/when I fuck up. I plan on using my 75 shot NOS in addition to the turbo so any info on this combo would be appreciated. Thanx bros. Also, I was thinking of tapping into an existing pressurized oil line instead of using an oil pump (if available). I need to know if this is possible. The turbo will be goin into the bed of the truck along with the relocation of the NOS. Lata dudes. I hjave had a fifth of Dr. Jack Daniels tongiuht so if any of this comes out jacked up I apologize. Peeeeesce.. :banana2:
please tell me that wasent a sschrome deal? for the oil feed, u can T into the oil sending unit. u will need a oil pump inline to get the oil back to the valve cover http://westech.home.mindspring.com/propages/scvpump.htm thats the oil pump i picked up when i was doin mine. now that i have a blower im still tryin to get it tuned right once i do ill b running some nitrous 2. about a 50 shot once i see how the motor/ air fuel ratio is ill hit it with a 75 remeber boost amplifies the effects of the nitrous, pull more timming and throw a set of 3922's in the truck. i have a intercooler if your interested. what size is the turbo? mine wa s a 60/63 was a tb048 off a gnx. what are you doing for timming/ignition? u need to bump fuel pressure with a inline pump and fmu....ps i like where ur nitrous bottle is...mine was in the same spot :biggthump

[Greg555]

Watch Your Compresion Ratio The Stock 3.9 Can Only Handle So Much Using The Nos And Turbo Will Destroy That Engine In About A Mile, The Socal Web Site Will Tell U What U Can Handle

only if you don't have everything tuned in properly. the v-6s can actually handle more pressure then the v-8s. the headbolt per/squre inch is greater so it holds it better. and it all depends on his boost level. a low boost application will be fine with the nx as long as he has enough fuel. there is no determined limit to what the set up can handle. its all about the tunning and the rest of the set up. if hes running lean on the juice and lean on 10lbs of boost yeah hes probly gonna blow a headgasket. but if his fuel is right he'll be fine. and wtf is up with the capital letters at the begining of each word??

To others: a shrapnel blanket is not necessary. 10:1 it never gets tuned to the point of running properly. theres alot of stuff that has to happen for it to run correctly. and if you are working on a budget thats gonna affect the outcome. being that he bought a ssautochrome $380 turbo, i'm guessing hes on a low budget. just ask Slow97 about how important money is in a situation like this..............

A forged crank is not readily available for the v-6. it would have to be a custom billet piece which will run you upwards of $1800. pistons and rods are a lil easier since they are the same for the 318 however the pistons are still a custom order because noone stocks them. and again, he bought a $380 turbo, i highly doubt he has the money to build a full out race motor. the first thing thats gonna break is the weak points on the engine. which on a stock motor with boost is gonna be the head gaskets. now if it makes it to WOT, and the nx kicks in under full boost, yeah it might be too much and blow a gasket and mabye crack a head if it detonates. the nx is gonna act as a intercooling method and help cool the charge comming into the engine. i'd drop back to a 50 shot personally but thats just me.

the oil line can be tapped into from the sending unit but you will need some form of pump to get it back to the pan. kinda depends on your mounting location. you said in the bed. but where abouts?keep it higher then the pan you might be alright if its mounted up by the cab wall. any electric oil pump will work. what are you gonna use for FMU, injectors, ignition, BTM? what other modifications are done to the engine? what are the specs on the turbo? theres still alot to do young grasshopper............

[steeda2h]

i hear alot of bad things about ssautochrome.com but i got alot of my stuff from them...its of course cheaper and of course u get what u pay for but thats what a budget build is all about...i've got the turbo and headers from ssautochrome...some1 told me the welds on the headers were crappy...they arent probly the best but i havent had any problems yet...the turbo is running perfect...of course now i probly jinxed myself and the whole thing will blow tommorrow...thanks! lol

[Slow97dakota]

only if you don't have everything tuned in properly. the v-6s can actually handle more pressure then the v-8s. the headbolt per/squre inch is greater so it holds it better. and it all depends on his boost level. a low boost application will be fine with the nx as long as he has enough fuel. there is no determined limit to what the set up can handle. its all about the tunning and the rest of the set up. if hes running lean on the juice and lean on 10lbs of boost yeah hes probly gonna blow a headgasket. but if his fuel is right he'll be fine. and wtf is up with the capital letters at the begining of each word??

To others: a shrapnel blanket is not necessary. 10:1 it never gets tuned to the point of running properly. theres alot of stuff that has to happen for it to run correctly. and if you are working on a budget thats gonna affect the outcome. being that he bought a ssautochrome $380 turbo, i'm guessing hes on a low budget. just ask Slow97 about how important money is in a situation like this..............

A forged crank is not readily available for the v-6. it would have to be a custom billet piece which will run you upwards of $1800. pistons and rods are a lil easier since they are the same for the 318 however the pistons are still a custom order because noone stocks them. and again, he bought a $380 turbo, i highly doubt he has the money to build a full out race motor. the first thing thats gonna break is the weak points on the engine. which on a stock motor with boost is gonna be the head gaskets. now if it makes it to WOT, and the nx kicks in under full boost, yeah it might be too much and blow a gasket and mabye crack a head if it detonates. the nx is gonna act as a intercooling method and help cool the charge comming into the engine. i'd drop back to a 50 shot personally but thats just me.

the oil line can be tapped into from the sending unit but you will need some form of pump to get it back to the pan. kinda depends on your mounting location. you said in the bed. but where abouts?keep it higher then the pan you might be alright if its mounted up by the cab wall. any electric oil pump will work. what are you gonna use for FMU, injectors, ignition, BTM? what other modifications are done to the engine? what are the specs on the turbo? theres still alot to do young grasshopper............
u are my hero

[addicted2blue00]

actually strokerkit.com has a forged kit for us 3.9ers so maybe you could talk them into just the crank, worth a shot, but the kit is a stroke kit. they are the only ones ive heard of to make any forged parts for us, as myself im look to go for a t4 turbo, also for timing tuning check into a msd 6a and a few other parts, and make sure ya have the gauges to keep check on everything, check your belly pan gasket, thats alot of pressure bein put on it, im personally gonna get an aftermarket manifold and have the pan welded shut to have to worries. not meaning anything by this but on dakotausa.com there was a write up done on how to build a setup for a turbo for a 3.9L

[Greg555]

actually strokerkit.com is a waste of time. the crank is gonna cost $1800. thats where i got that number from. i was gonna build a 4.7 v-6 however, due to my dealings with stroker kits i determined a v-8 would be easier. called them and they said yeah we can do it but not now we're busy, call back later, so i call later, oh we're so busy we're not promissing anyone anything, so i can back about 2 months later, yeah we outsource all our cranks and our guy is slow so we're not gonna do it. so i give them one more shot, yeah we're not really interested in building this kit. so you see its not really an option. noone wants to make it. its a one off thing because not that many people build a v-6. i had a line on another one from a guy who actually built a stroked v-6, he had a friend build it, i got the same answer, too busy, don't want to make anymore. the pistons and rods are the easy part, the crank is gonna be the hardest thing to come by, and again there is a huge price tag. $1800 for a crank. then there is the machine shop bill etc.


oh and nothing good ever came out of DakUSA

[LANOLIN]

So I guess I should have done some research,from the sounds of it, regarding which brand of turbo to buy. Oh well. This is my first experience messing with boost so I'm not to worried about it. As far as the budget goes, it's not tight at all but even when you have money that doesn't give permission to "blow it." I'll most likely use this setup for a while without the NX. Then when I start fiendin' for more (which will probably be the following week) I'll get into some more serious upgrades. (headwork, injectors, better turbo) Thanks for all the awsome input "grasshoppas :banana2: :mullet: ." :wave: I had to start somewhere, glad I gotta good site backing me. BTW the turbo is scheduled for delivery today. I picked up some piping and various angles. I should be underway by this weekend.

[steeda2h]

the turbo is bolted in...fab everything up with the turbo u got and get it running right and then n the future if ya feel the need upgrade the turbo....it will be just a unbolting and bolting new one in...

[LANOLIN]

Exactly...I'm going to mount it as close to the bed as possible with only the air filter actually poking through. I plan on moving a couple bottles of Nitrous back there as well as some subs and don't want it getting too hot. :mullet: