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: Lifter Tick Remedy


bigpav7
09-10-2010, 07:19 PM
Need some opinions here guys. I bought the truck a year ago. The engine would chatter for about half a second the first start of the day and then ticked for a few minutes. The first 2 oil changes produced nasty oil, so I decided to Auto-rx it to see if that would help. Well, I am almost done with the rinse and the engine still exhibits the same symptoms. It doesnít happen all the time but I still get the same chatter/tick. The oil is very clean, so I am thinking that itís not sludge-related. Itís been suggested that I switch to a heavier oil, which may help. I figure I have 2 options:

1. Lucas oil treatment or Restore
2. Just Thicker oil.

What do you guys suggest? If itís thicker oil, can I go with 5W-40 instead of the recommended 5w-30 or should I just go up to 10w-40?

Thanks.

923.9dakota
09-10-2010, 07:35 PM
have you tried marvel mystery oil it usually helps quiet noisy lifters

DocZ
09-10-2010, 07:56 PM
Try 10w30 if using 5w30.

Tydog07
09-10-2010, 08:47 PM
Try 10w30 if using 5w30.

I hear that dodge now recommends 5W20 for the 4.7L, is this true?

gocartone
09-10-2010, 09:47 PM
^Maybe for the new 4.7s. I think they are starting to suggest thinner oil to get better MPG's out of cars.

GWhaley
09-10-2010, 11:17 PM
About the only way you are going to quiet down a noisy lash adjuster is to replace it.....

Daktaspt
09-11-2010, 12:01 AM
Not necessarily. They could just have dirt in them. Try some seafoam the last few hundred miles before your oil change, and dont' spare it (thats why I said the end of the oil change). Also, the thicker oil (and I'm a proponent of thicker oil) will take longer to fill the lifters.

suprchgd99rango
09-11-2010, 12:08 AM
marvel mystery oil is trans fluid. trans fluid has more cleaning additives then motor oil.

bigpav7
09-11-2010, 02:12 AM
so thicker oil is definitely not going to help, huh? might as well try MMO, i got nothing to lose at this point.

DakotaMike
09-11-2010, 02:26 AM
My 01 has had the ticking since I bought it a year ago. Replaced the lifters (used new mopars) when I installed my H.O. cams and the ticking got worse. I use Mobile 1 10W30, I thought about trying something thicker but on my last oil change I put in Lucas pure synthetic oil stabilizer. I still have a ticking at cold start up but only lasts about 20 seconds were it was at 2 minutes. I can live with the 20 seconds but still bumed about the noise after replacing them.

Mike

suprchgd99rango
09-11-2010, 02:28 AM
get a 5.9/thread.

moparsz
09-11-2010, 02:56 AM
from what I've heard why the 4.7 uses 5w-30 is due to smaller oil lines.

Tydog07
09-11-2010, 01:31 PM
^Maybe for the new 4.7s. I think they are starting to suggest thinner oil to get better MPG's out of cars.

Would it be unwise of me to switch to 0W20 or 5W20?

bigpav7
09-11-2010, 05:55 PM
My 01 has had the ticking since I bought it a year ago. Replaced the lifters (used new mopars) when I installed my H.O. cams and the ticking got worse. I use Mobile 1 10W30, I thought about trying something thicker but on my last oil change I put in Lucas pure synthetic oil stabilizer. I still have a ticking at cold start up but only lasts about 20 seconds were it was at 2 minutes. I can live with the 20 seconds but still bumed about the noise after replacing them.

Mike

that sucks dude. I'd be seriously pissed if the tick did not go away after brand new mopar lifters were installed. I was plannon on throwin in new lifters eventually. Not anymore I don't think.

gocartone
09-11-2010, 06:43 PM
Would it be unwise of me to switch to 0W20 or 5W20?

It wouldn't help anything. I would rather run a thicker oil over a thinner myself.

JCFKota
09-13-2010, 02:16 AM
My 4.7L with 71K miles on it does this every morning. I've always read that its a common problem on the 4.7's but not an engine death sentence. Though it is quite annoying in the mornings.

WestCoastKevin
09-13-2010, 06:08 PM
Check your oil pressure. You might have an oil pump that is getting lazy. If that is the case, changing the lifters or using thicker oil will not do much for you.

BlackDak
09-14-2010, 06:18 PM
On that note, what should the presure be? My mechanical gauge reds 60-70 cold, barely over 20 warmed up...

Daktaspt
09-14-2010, 07:38 PM
I belive that engine should run around 40psi warm.

Shimrra
09-14-2010, 08:23 PM
My 01 has had the ticking since I bought it a year ago. Replaced the lifters (used new mopars) when I installed my H.O. cams and the ticking got worse. I use Mobile 1 10W30, I thought about trying something thicker but on my last oil change I put in Lucas pure synthetic oil stabilizer. I still have a ticking at cold start up but only lasts about 20 seconds were it was at 2 minutes. I can live with the 20 seconds but still bumed about the noise after replacing them.

Mike

please tell me you actually pulled them apart and made sure they were clean

Daktaspt
09-14-2010, 09:43 PM
I was going to suggest Lucas but didn't want to start the "additive" war. It is good shit though you probably have another problem.

GWhaley
09-14-2010, 10:04 PM
I belive that engine should run around 40psi warm.

The book that I have has 6 PSI at idle and 25-110 PSI at 3000 RPM.......

CowTown GT
09-14-2010, 10:22 PM
My cousin who builds Dakotas, says that the 4.7L oil pumps weren't big enough for the motor. So when the oil is a little thick in the morning, it ticks a lil. I don't know if theres any truth to this though?

Shimrra
09-14-2010, 10:44 PM
My cousin who builds Dakotas, says that the 4.7L oil pumps weren't big enough for the motor. So when the oil is a little thick in the morning, it ticks a lil. I don't know if theres any truth to this though?

that dosent make sense because the colder the oil the easier to pump.

GWhaley
09-14-2010, 10:53 PM
that dosent make sense because the colder the oil the easier to pump.

Might want to re-think that.

Shimrra
09-14-2010, 11:12 PM
my bad, miss spoke. harder to pump, but thicker so it builds pressure easier is what i meant.

CowTown GT
09-15-2010, 02:22 AM
my bad, miss spoke. harder to pump, but thicker so it builds pressure easier is what i meant.

Ya, but because its to small, it has problems getting that much pressure quickly. It was men't for a v6 or suffin like that.

Shimrra
09-15-2010, 05:18 AM
thats why they make high volume replacements lol

BlackDak
09-15-2010, 05:42 AM
where might these high volume pumps be found?

daniyel
09-15-2010, 09:37 AM
Also, I've found that parking at an angle can cause the oil to drain out of the top of the engine (I try to park on level surfaces now to help avoid this). The oil flow diagram in the shop manual shows the hyd tappets being the last part filled after a start. I can find the chart and post it if you'd like.

Also, I've found a good seafoam right before the oil change to help a great deal as well when it starts acting like that.

Cheers.

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